RD 13: Kings V Crocs

[Southern Joe]

Hoping for a return to the winners list for us ( Finally!)

Couldn't see anywhere on the Crocs site ... but does that radio station of yours still do their wonderfully biased coverage of all Crocs games??

[mattic]

No, mate, none of that anymore.

I know of no special circumstances for either of these teams that gives them an edge. I don't think "hungry for a win" after, what is it, 13 straight losses? counts for anything after about the fifth.

So, with the Crocs going ok, just ok, but the Kings sucking, I'm going to say the Crocs will get this one.

[Prodigal]

With all the "hard work" the Kings have been putting in to try and turn things around, training 2 or 3 times a week and game day shootarounds "optional", Crocs by 15

[bad gambler]

Crocs by 30+

[cantremeber]

Honestly - if the boys cant go to Sydney and slap those girls around and win by a healthy margin - they're pretenders.

Crocs by 8-10

[paul]

If that’s true Prodigal, I cant see them having any hope of turning the season around. It would explain why they drop off in second halves. Surely they are training more than that?? Who’s their strength and conditioning guy, Mark Philippousis?

[Prodigal]

If that’s true Prodigal, I cant see them having any hope of turning the season around. It would explain why they drop off in second halves. Surely they are training more than that?? Who’s their strength and conditioning guy, Mark Philippousis?

Just the word I'm hearing from some fairly reliable sources. Truly head shaking stuff

[gangsta boo]

Just the word I'm hearing from some fairly reliable sources. Truly head shaking stuff

Are they a professional sporting team or a rec team? :(

[curious]

Certainly something I had heard (and posted) previously. The bit about training 2-3 times a week.

Anyway Dickel back and ready.
http://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/article/2011/01/06/197891_sport.html

I thought these comments were worth discussion.

"What he's found in less than a month in Sydney is that coaching isn't the problem with the Kings. "I really feel that Moose (coach Ian Robilliard) and Conner (assistant Conner Henry) aren't being given any slack," Dickel said.
"The way they have prepared the side in my time here has been fine, they are doing their job. It's us, the players who have to take more responsibility and deliver."

Cedar doubtful.
http://www.nbl.com.au/news/article/2011/january/cedar-to-undergo-fitness-test/

[paul]

Well if Mark is being candid then that is a good sign, because he has played for some good teams here and abroad. But would he say the opposite if it were true? The proof will be on the court now that he is ready. If they don’t look organised after a 2-3 games with him in the line-up the finger would have to be pointed at the coaches.

All I want from the Kings is some really competitive performances (wins or losses in the last minute) in their tv games, particularly on Australia Day when they are on Ten.

[curious]

Would he say the opposite if he thought he could get a Head Coaching job there this season or next season? Of course not.

[SB.1]

Anyone think the starting lineup is unbalanced with Sanders at SG, and Gilder at SF? I think these guys are too similar to start together and Sanders is more of an SF than an SG. Having Gilder come off the bench may also relieve the pressue on him and provide instant offense when the starters are off.

Martin
Madgen
Sanders
Kinght
Khazzouh

looks way better to me. But that would mean Madgen playing menaingful minutes, so probably won't happen with the current men in charge.

[crocintaipanterritory]

If crocs play like they did against NZ, Kings might as well not show up. I saw that hungry look in Ros's eyes in the last qtr when he was grabbing the rebounds and looking back at the crocs bench , i think the spark is back .... here we go crocs, all the way to the playoffs !

[Daevo]

Anyone think the starting lineup is unbalanced with Sanders at SG, and Gilder at SF? I think these guys are too similar to start together and Sanders is more of an SF than an SG. Having Gilder come off the bench may also relieve the pressue on him and provide instant offense when the starters are off.

Martin
Madgen
Sanders
Kinght
Khazzouh


Agreed. I see Gilder as more of a backup 3/4 based on his form to date & I don't think you'll find anybody not on the Kings payroll who would disagree with Madgen getting more minutes.

I was wondering if they might even start Dickel but it's probably a bit too soon for that.

[conair]

If crocs play like they did against NZ, Kings might as well not show up. I saw that hungry look in Ros's eyes in the last qtr when he was grabbing the rebounds and looking back at the crocs bench , i think the spark is back .... here we go crocs, all the way to the playoffs !

Don't count your chickens before they hatch, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Kings win this one.

[Blaze Bandit]

Anyone think the starting lineup is unbalanced with Sanders at SG, and Gilder at SF? I think these guys are too similar to start together and Sanders is more of an SF than an SG. Having Gilder come off the bench may also relieve the pressue on him and provide instant offense when the starters are off.

Martin
Madgen
Sanders
Kinght
Khazzouh

looks way better to me. But that would mean Madgen playing menaingful minutes, so probably won't happen with the current men in charge.

Madge would be better coming of the bench. I would start Ryan in the 2....
100% agree with you about the men in charge!!

[meg]

''It was a terrible time {For the Swans}. We lost 26 in a row, and that was home and away games, but there were also lots of pre-season games in the middle as well, and I can't remember winning any of those either,'' says Paul Kelly, who played in all 26 games, and captained the club in 1993. ''Looking back, it was hard to see how we got through. All you can do is persevere. We were lucky we had a core group that were able to push through those terrible times. We just had to put our heads down and work hard, and hope to get better - that's what we did. We weren't a great footy team but we were all pretty solid blokes just trying to do the best we could. We started every game thinking we were a chance. A lot of the times we could win a half or even three quarters, we just couldn't finish it off. Maybe teams didn't take us as seriously, and it took them a half to get going. ''As the losses grew, I think it worried teams we were playing more than us. They were getting nervous knowing we would win one sooner or later, and they didn't want it to be them.''


As someone who witnessed the long losing streak for the Razorbacks, I find this quote to ring very true.

[Prodigal]

Madge would be better coming of the bench. I would start Ryan in the 2....
100% agree with you about the men in charge!!

Ryan's form hasn't been near 10th man junk minute level, let alone starting

[Daevo]

Don't count your chickens before they hatch, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Kings win this one.
We would, pleasantly surprised but still surprised.

Yes nerf I know, it's glass half empty but I think a good dose of protective pessimism is now a prerequistite to be a Kings supporter. One day we'll all be pleasantly surprised... we hope.

[Blaze Bandit]

[QUOTE=curious;261057]Certainly something I had heard (and posted) previously. The bit about training 2-3 times a week.

Anyway Dickel back and ready.
http://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/article/2011/01/06/197891_sport.html

I thought these comments were worth discussion.

"What he's found in less than a month in Sydney is that coaching isn't the problem with the Kings. "I really feel that Moose (coach Ian Robilliard) and Conner (assistant Conner Henry) aren't being given any slack," Dickel said.
"The way they have prepared the side in my time here has been fine, they are doing their job. It's us, the players who have to take more responsibility and deliver."


What rock has Dickel be hiding under? Give them some slack....Your kidding me!
The saying goes.....You play the way you practice.....Practice must be like U/14's.

[Blaze Bandit]

Ryan's form hasn't been near 10th man junk minute level, let alone starting

Agree, but you gotta give him the chance!
You also gotta have the plays to get him & your shooters the ball??

[SB.1]

Ryan is done, this is his last season, why invest those minutes in him, when you can invest them in Madgen?

[SB.1]

What rock has Dickel be hiding under? Give them some slack....Your kidding me!
The saying goes.....You play the way you practice.....Practice must be like U/14's.

Agreed. I can't understand how Moose is still coach. The only way I can explain it is a) a lack of funds to be able to do anything about it; b) personal loyalty between Turner and Moose or c) a combination of a) and b). Surely the board's patience is near exhaustion!

[SB.1]

a good dose of protective pessimism is now a prerequistite to be a Kings supporter. One day we'll all be pleasantly surprised... we hope.

It's a true throw-back to yesteryear (pre 2003)! Let's hope the breakthrough doesn't take 15 years this time.

[Nerf Herder]

Agree, but you gotta give him the chance!
You also gotta have the plays to get him & your shooters the ball??

He's averaging 3x as much of a chance as a much higher quality younger player has been given recently and not producing anymore... I think giving Madge the starting position would give him a huge boost and I think take the pressure off of him to come in and force things... But what do I know? I'm not a coach...

Yes nerf I know, it's glass half empty but I think a good dose of protective pessimism is now a prerequistite to be a Kings supporter. One day we'll all be pleasantly surprised... we hope.
Ha... I think we're lucky to have a glass, and I doubt that it's even half full ;)

As for Dickel's comments, there's really no other thing he can say really, and Jules has been on the record as saying pretty much the same thing... I for one can't wait to see what Dickel does on court however... A lot rests on his shoulders...

[Silencer83]

He's averaging 3x as much of a chance as a much higher quality younger player has been given recently and not producing anymore... I think giving Madge the starting position would give him a huge boost and I think take the pressure off of him to come in and force things... But what do I know? I'm not a coach...

It could also have the "Lisch-effect" on "Clutch" Ryan; where he can watch the game unfold a bit before coming in.


Ha... I think we're lucky to have a glass, and I doubt that it's even half full ;)

As for Dickel's comments, there's really no other thing he can say really, and Jules has been on the record as saying pretty much the same thing... I for one can't wait to see what Dickel does on court however... A lot rests on his shoulders...

Hopefully (for the Kings' sake) he doesn't turn out to be Ryan Mach II.

[Dunkin' Dan]

Hopefully he does, but I'm guessing that with age he has lost most of his speed.

[SB.1]

Hopefully he does

Kings hater!

[Nerf Herder]

It could also have the "Lisch-effect" on "Clutch" Ryan; where he can watch the game unfold a bit before coming in.
Yes, more time on the bench to ponder can only help ;)


Hopefully (for the Kings' sake) he doesn't turn out to be Ryan Mach II.
well, in the game of heads and tails, it's GOT to fall both ways EVENTUALLY... It's up to the individual as to whether they prefer tail or head...

Even if he's lost his quickness and is just a normal player speed, hopefully being able to watch the last few games from the sideline will have given Dickel an opportunity to apply his experience and PG savvy to what's needed and when...

The last few games (at least those that I've seen) have shown glimpses of the Kings trying to get their shooters open, hopefully we can see more of that and getting the ball inside to some targets...

[curious]

Hopefully he does, but I'm guessing that with age he has lost most of his speed.
Dickel said in the article I linked to, "I'm not as fast, or as athletic, that would be impossible. But I know I shoot the ball a lot better than I did back then".
Let's hope his observations of the coaches are as good as his shooting ability. ;)

[angel]

How many days a week training would most teams do per week?

[Cussy]

12.

[A Higher Authority]

Anyone think the starting lineup is unbalanced with Sanders at SG, and Gilder at SF? I think these guys are too similar to start together and Sanders is more of an SF than an SG. Having Gilder come off the bench may also relieve the pressue on him and provide instant offense when the starters are off.

Martin
Madgen
Sanders
Kinght
Khazzouh

looks way better to me. But that would mean Madgen playing menaingful minutes, so probably won't happen with the current men in charge.

Dann started ahead of Knight last week and made a good job of it, including finding Khazzouh in the paint with the first play of the game. Unfortunately, the Perth hackers chopped Jules about on that one and we didn't score.
However, Khazzouh has locked his man down inside the paint in every home game this year in the opening seconds of play and has received a pass just once - last week from Dann.
Not sure about Madgen starting unless he resists the temptation to dribble into a tight spot, then try and shoot his way out of it - he's been blocked a lot this year on this type of play.
When he gets (and takes) an open look, he's been deadly.
Let's imagine the above starting line-up (with Dann ahead of Knight) with Martin, Madgen, Sanders all shooting with confidence, Dann hustling inside to draw some heat and thereby giving Jules some additional space - IMO, a recipe for a much better looking starting line-up.

[angel]

12.

lol. so the kings are really under working. ;)

[timeforachange]

I don't think there is much interest in the game tonight up here, after all the Fury is playing and they take the Lions share of the media, come to think of it, the Croc's don't even feature in the sports section of today's paper! Are they really that much on the nose in Townsville?

[curious]

Kings have a secret weapon - the former coach of Albania.

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/basketball/look-out-crocs-kings-have-a-secret-weapon--the-former-coach-of-albania-20110107-19iqe.html

[DDFan]

Kings have a secret weapon - the former coach of Albania.

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/basketball/look-out-crocs-kings-have-a-secret-weapon--the-former-coach-of-albania-20110107-19iqe.html
Is Moose kulling a team sport in Albania?

[SB.1]

I don't think there is much interest in the game tonight up here, after all the Fury is playing and they take the Lions share of the media, come to think of it, the Croc's don't even feature in the sports section of today's paper! Are they really that much on the nose in Townsville?

its because they sacked Corey

[SB.1]

Kings have a secret weapon - the former coach of Albania.

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/basketball/look-out-crocs-kings-have-a-secret-weapon--the-former-coach-of-albania-20110107-19iqe.html

maybe he can be player coach for the Kings

[cantremeber]

I don't think there is much interest in the game tonight up here, after all the Fury is playing and they take the Lions share of the media, come to think of it, the Croc's don't even feature in the sports section of today's paper! Are they really that much on the nose in Townsville?

13 posts and already lambasting the club. Having said that I also noticed there was not a column inch of coverage of the Crocs although they have had some exposure over recent days.

They'll win to night for sure - if they lose....geeeeezzzzzzz......

Re your name.....change for what?

[SB.1]

Re your name.....change for what?

Schweppes Cola http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAc7UIDKw7s

[crocintaipanterritory]

I don't think there is much interest in the game tonight up here, after all the Fury is playing and they take the Lions share of the media, come to think of it, the Croc's don't even feature in the sports section of today's paper! Are they really that much on the nose in Townsville?

and that's why rusty was on the front page of yesterdays bully?

[Daevo]

Mark Dickel will be suiting up for the Kings, for the first time tonight, after returning to training all week including a 2 hour session with the team this morning.

.

[Stumps]

What do they mean "including"? From what we've heard, that IS training for the week :p

[conair]

13 posts and already lambasting the club. Having said that I also noticed there was not a column inch of coverage of the Crocs although they have had some exposure over recent days.

They'll win to night for sure - if they lose....geeeeezzzzzzz......



Re your name.....change for what?


They'll win to night for sure - if they lose....geeeeezzzzzzz......

I wouldn't count on it, the Kings have been close in most games and I think they'll knock the inconsistent Crocs off.

[curious]

What do they mean "including"? From what we've heard, that IS training for the week :p
Indeed.

[DDFan]

Originally Posted by Sydney Kings
Mark Dickel will be suiting up for the Kings, for the first time tonight, after returning to training all week including a 2 hour session with the team this morning.
What do they mean "including"? From what we've heard, that IS training for the week :pIndeed.You'd think the Assistant coach would cut the ads from the game tape so the guys could get an early minute. :rolleyes:

There's so much to do in Sydney. :p ;)

Is the game being televised?

[conair]

Is the game being televised?

Looks like the next televised game is


Sunday January 9
Gold Coast
Wollongong
6:00PM

[SB.1]

Is the game being televised?

No, but not because it's a Saturday game, but because it's a Crocs game.

[DDFan]

No, but not because it's a Saturday game, but because it's a Crocs game.Troll. ;)

[timeforachange]

I know Hinder was on the front page of the paper but it had nothing to do with the games against the Kings.

I was just wondering why the Bulletin didn't run any kind of story re the game, it is game day isn't it?

That's all, the local paper runs stories on the Fury front centre and back, I was just asking the question as to why nothing about the Croc's on a game day Saturday.

If nothing changes, nothing changes.....hence time for a change.

[DDFan]

Would it matter that the game's being played in Sydney?

[fan since the old snakepit]

It may matter a lot. Just watched 7 news. No Kings story, but, wait for it, a nice coverage of the Ukeladies and some of those who have rocked up with their Ukes for the jam session. They aparently are doing a Creole version of Waltzing Matilda.

Down came a Crawfish to drink at the Bayou.........


Are you guys getting any Ukeladies love in the media up North Qld way because from what I've now seen they are even more exciting than a Luke Schenscher layup.

[timeforachange]

It may matter a lot. Just watched 7 news. No Kings story, but, wait for it, a nice coverage of the Ukeladies and some of those who have rocked up with their Ukes for the jam session. They aparently are doing a Creole version of Waltzing Matilda.

Down came a Crawfish to drink at the Bayou.........


Are you guys getting any Ukeladies love in the media up North Qld way because from what I've now seen they are even more exciting than a Luke Schenscher layup.

Well we are a bunch of rednecks, this is right up our alley!

[timeforachange]

13 posts and already lambasting the club. Having said that I also noticed there was not a column inch of coverage of the Crocs although they have had some exposure over recent days.

They'll win to night for sure - if they lose....geeeeezzzzzzz......

Re your name.....change for what?

Cantremember why I think it's time for a change.

[DDFan]

Are you guys getting any Ukeladies love in the media up North Qld way because from what I've now seen they are even more exciting than a Luke Schenscher layup.Cock fights, boarnicating & pissing contests are all the go uP there mate.

[cantremeber]

Well we are a bunch of rednecks, this is right up our alley!

Whats all this talk about "up your alley" - this IS a family website,mate.

[cantremeber]

Scores are all level in Sydney...Kings doing very well so far.

[timeforachange]

Scores are all level in Sydney...Kings doing very well so far.

Is the game really on? Like not in paper and now nothing on NBL site

[Southern Joe]

... Anybody @ the game? (Updates hoped for) :D

[conair]

Is the game really on? Like not in paper and now nothing on NBL siteTime to change your glasses mate live score up and running NBL site

[Southern Joe]

Time to change your glasses mate live score up and running NBL site

... Geez.. Lucky.

at th time that guy posted the scores were still showing no signs of life.

Good thing so far ...... 23-21 to the good guys. Qtr time.

[conair]

... Geez.. Lucky.

at th time that guy posted the scores were still showing no signs of life.

Good thing so far ...... 23-21 to the good guys. Qtr time.

I hope you guys get the win tonight.

[curious]

8-0 run in the 2nd to the Crocs :(

[Southern Joe]

I hope you guys get the win tonight.


It'd be a welcome change.

[Southern Joe]

... Crocs up by a dozen at the main break . :twisted:

[crocintaipanterritory]

I know Hinder was on the front page of the paper but it had nothing to do with the games against the Kings.

I was just wondering why the Bulletin didn't run any kind of story re the game, it is game day isn't it?

That's all, the local paper runs stories on the Fury front centre and back, I was just asking the question as to why nothing about the Croc's on a game day Saturday.

If nothing changes, nothing changes.....hence time for a change.

and change what exactly? sponsor? board? ceo? mascot? players? coach? coaching staff? volunteers ? seems to be in capable hands for the last 17 years....... perhaps you should invest in them yourself and then you make all the changes you want !

[Dunkin' Dan]

... Crocs up by a dozen at the main break . :twisted:
Disappointing stuff. I'm sure they'll step on the accelerator in the 2nd though.

[Dave Marshall]

Hinder went off with a bloodied mouth after a collision with Sanders near the end of the second. Doesn't look like they'll risk him going back on.

Edit: No, he's made a liar out of me, he's come out to start the fourth.

[Southern Joe]

.... He needs live in a bubble for a week....

The other day he nearly got bitten by a snake .. now a smack in the mouth.

[timeforachange]

and change what exactly? sponsor? board? ceo? mascot? players? coach? coaching staff? volunteers ? seems to be in capable hands for the last 17 years....... perhaps you should invest in them yourself and then you make all the changes you want !

Hey hang on, Where did I say change that, you don't think it could be a personal thing? Like maybe it's time for a change!

I only commented on here that there was zip in the paper today, I couldn't understand how there was nothing on the game tonight! I wondered why the hell the Bulletin didn't run with something, anything!

There is nothing wrong with the lsit above, having the longest sponsor like they do, board memebers and stuff is a great thing.

Gezzzzzzzzzzzz

[Southern Joe]

... yeah ... But to be fair .... you've made a statement about a "Time for a change" ( its even your username) ... so thats 2 pretty strong statements right there without saying anything.

then .. you're challenged to quantify what you're on about ... you go off & sulk.


C'mon !!!!

[Dunkin' Dan]

Kings have really cranked up the D - Crocs scoreless for about 45 minutes now. If only Sydney could score themselves this could be a game.
Loving these Livestats.

[Cussy]

I hope you guys get the win tonight.

Why do you hope the team you support will lose?

[Southern Joe]

... Who cares?

I'm willing to believe in reverse woofing if it gets us a win... ;)

[Southern Joe]

Kings have really cranked up the D - Crocs scoreless for about 45 minutes now. If only Sydney could score themselves this could be a game.
Loving these Livestats.


... Get out of it & click back in .. I just did .. for the last 17 secs.

[Southern Joe]

Damn ...
We lose 80-73. :(:(:(

[crocintaipanterritory]

Hey hang on, Where did I say change that, you don't think it could be a personal thing? Like maybe it's time for a change!

I only commented on here that there was zip in the paper today, I couldn't understand how there was nothing on the game tonight! I wondered why the hell the Bulletin didn't run with something, anything!

There is nothing wrong with the lsit above, having the longest sponsor like they do, board memebers and stuff is a great thing.

Gezzzzzzzzzzzz

you said change? i asked you what to change? and you can't give me an answer? perhaps josh alston missed the deadline to put in his sport report. It does happen in papers regularly.

[conair]

Why do you hope the team you support will lose? the kings are my second team

[crocintaipanterritory]

the kings are my second team

how many 2nd teams do you have lol ? Corey & stacker would be upset to hear that you have the kings as a 2nd team !!!

[timeforachange]

... yeah ... But to be fair .... you've made a statement about a "Time for a change" ( its even your username) ... so thats 2 pretty strong statements right there without saying anything.

then .. you're challenged to quantify what you're on about ... you go off & sulk.


C'mon !!!!

Mate I was having a go at the dude who brought it up, not the Croc guy. It has nothing to do with the Crocodiles, it's my personal handle, that's all. It might have something to do with me as a person.

As for sulking, where the hell does that fit in?

Finally I am not on about anything, why is the guy living in Cairns supporting the Croc's? I don't really care, but I am not asking if he is a spy or anything.

Congrats on the win Croc's, perhaps the Bulletin will now write something about the game.

[timeforachange]

13 posts and already lambasting the club. Having said that I also noticed there was not a column inch of coverage of the Crocs although they have had some exposure over recent days.

They'll win to night for sure - if they lose....geeeeezzzzzzz......

Re your name.....change for what?

Mate, where am I having a shot at the Croc's? I am questioning the Bulletin.

[conair]

how many 2nd teams do you have lol ? Corey & stacker would be upset to hear that you have the kings as a 2nd team !!! I 'm sure they'd prefer me to support the Kings instead of the Crocs

[cantremeber]

Mate, where am I having a shot at the Croc's? I am questioning the Bulletin.

Lot of sensitive wusses on the board...toughen up!

[cantremeber]

LS - 2 pts
Hinder - 0 pts
R Ellis - 4 pts
B Allen - 2 pts

Aggregate - 4 for 17

Huh....?

[Haywood Jablome]

Fewest minutes for Damien Ryan in a while, closest the Kings have come to winning in a while. Hmmm...

[Southern Joe]

Mate I was having a go at the dude who brought it up, not the Croc guy. It has nothing to do with the Crocodiles, it's my personal handle, that's all. It might have something to do with me as a person.

As for sulking, where the hell does that fit in?


Here ... esp. the bolded part..

I know Hinder was on the front page of the paper but it had nothing to do with the games against the Kings.

I was just wondering why the Bulletin didn't run any kind of story re the game, it is game day isn't it?

That's all, the local paper runs stories on the Fury front centre and back, I was just asking the question as to why nothing about the Croc's on a game day Saturday.

If nothing changes, nothing changes.....hence time for a change.

... So you were asked what needs changing ... you all of a sudden went AWOL on answering that one.

Finally I am not on about anything, why is the guy living in Cairns supporting the Croc's? I don't really care, but I am not asking if he is a spy or anything.


You're probably not aware of my history( its been awhile since we had one of those" How Did You Get Your Username" threads) ... but I am a Kings fan living in Melbourne. Long story short ...I'm originally from Sydney ... I moved here chasing the girl of my dreams(who became my wife & mother to our 4 children). Twenty yrs later & I've made Melbourne home.I know of at least 2 other Kings' fans now living in Melbourne( one who posts on here & one who used to post on here). So a Croc living in Cairns would be nothing unusual & probably one of many plausible reasons why he lives there.



Congrats on the win Croc's, perhaps the Bulletin will now write something about the game.


.. If you're not happy with their coverage ... send them an email ... after all...


If nothing changes, nothing changes.....

[crocintaipanterritory]

Mate I was having a go at the dude who brought it up, not the Croc guy. It has nothing to do with the Crocodiles, it's my personal handle, that's all. It might have something to do with me as a person.

As for sulking, where the hell does that fit in?

Finally I am not on about anything, why is the guy living in Cairns supporting the Croc's? I don't really care, but I am not asking if he is a spy or anything.

Congrats on the win Croc's, perhaps the Bulletin will now write something about the game.

i support the crocs because i lived in TSV, and was at every game since inception in 93. I live in Cairns due to my business. Why does where I live got to do with supporting my team? I also barrack for the Western Bulldogs but I don't live in Footscray ? and yep , you got me ... I was sent here (Cairns) to spy on the taipans and report back to the club lol !

[cantremeber]

i support the crocs because i lived in TSV, and was at every game since inception in 93. I live in Cairns due to my business. Why does where I live got to do with supporting my team? I also barrack for the Western Bulldogs but I don't live in Footscray ? and yep , you got me ... I was sent here (Cairns) to spy on the taipans and report back to the club lol !

timeforachange...word is this guy is close to one of the major sponsors.

[gangsta boo]

Fewest minutes for Damien Ryan in a while, closest the Kings have come to winning in a while. Hmmm...

they cut the lead and got close, ryan was subbed on , lead blew out again hmmmm

[Nerf Herder]

Ok, some observations from the game...

First... I'm certainly hoping the Kings coaching staff watch that game tape to learn how to train getting your shooters open... I think only one of Crawford's 3PT attempts was anywhere close to being challenged properly (which he made an awesome shot) overall, an F for perimeter defence tonight...

Otherwise, I thought they did a decent job... I think I've gotten over wanting to win, and am quite calm post game... During the game, I wanted to throttle the refs, at least in the first half... I don't think that I've had a decent whinge about the standard of reffing so far this season, but that first half was ATTROCIOUS... Even with my one-eyed blinders on, the Kings were getting mauled underneath with nothing being called... Also, nearing the end of the 2nd quarter, can someone more knowledgable explain to me please, why, when Blalock fumbled a pass into the backcourt, it wasn't a violation?

Luke got over his two stupid ballhandling errors from very early on, and did an ok job, but they just looked like a different team when Dickel came on, I think they were down by 7 or so, and they just seemed much more confident and organised... Overall, I think once Dickel gets some conditioning, he should do well... He played a long stretch and was slow to walk off when he got rested, which would be understandable, and he took two of the worst airballs I've seen, but in contrast, his other two outside shots were sweet, so there's a reason behind WHY he took them, just so obviously didn't have the legs... As a floor leader he was solid though... getting pumped up and directing traffic a lot better than what we've seen so far... That alley oop pass to Sanders(?) though was WAY off and too early and while the regular 2pts would have been great, he was smart enough to know that if they nailed it, the crowd would have went nuts... A gamble that I like to see them take, as the crowd really responded well to Gilders few dunks...

Speaking of which, it looks like he might have just saved his job with this one... I can't believe that he got 6 blocks, I would have swapped his and Jules totals around, but most of them happened up the other end, so I guess I didn't spot it correctly... a much tougher performance and I liked him doing those couple of make up plays when he stuffed up a couple of times, and when he got hard done by late in the game he got that monster block and you could see he was playing angry, which I think helped...

Dann was a big stand out tonight, and like someone else mentioned previously (here or Kings thread) you can see that he's looking to get the ball into Jules, doesn't force it, but he's got a really good eye, and his effort was great, especially since Jules played every minute and looked to get a bit tired and not as active, so Dann's great effort overall really helped...

I'm not sure playing Jules every minute was helpful... Again he didn't get much action in the 2nd half, but he was getting tustled around pretty well, so giving him a few minutes spell might have helped... At least he didn't foul out this time :)

During the game, I thought the Croc big guys were pretty quiet, and hardly saw Big Red, so our guys must have done a solid job on them, especially with Knight not even getting 10mins against them (another big tick for Dann, I think, if someone can confirm?) and when he WAS on and guarding Rosell, he was giving him a LOT of space when he was a fair way out... Mr Cosby next to me at one point thought that we only had four players on the court as no-one was obviously guarding him...

I'm going to have to agree with Mr Cosby that there's a LOT of times that our guys make it into the paint, but try to dish when they are relatively open
take the damn shot!

Maybe certain players have been told they're to be pass first?

Anyways, props to the crowd on the most part of staying in their seat until the final buzzer, as when I got up with two timeouts to go to stand up the top of the stairs ready to go, hardly anyone else was moving, it was actually pretty great to see... I'm surprised at the numbers of 4500 being there as it looked more full than the 5000 game last time, with the lower seating more compactly filled and a good scattering of fans in the middle upper tier...

maybe he can be player coach for the Kings
I think I've already mentioned this ;) Again, late in the game, it looked like there was no game plan whatsoever... It was back to one pass, then try to force your way into the key to score...

Again, another disappointing loss, moreso this time as it looked at times that we were capable of eeking out this one, but then the Crocs would nail a few very open threes, and it would stretch out to double figures again... Some really exciting parts though, which I hope will be a regular occurance, as that is certainly needed when the wins aren't coming...

they cut the lead and got close, ryan was subbed on , lead blew out again hmmmm
Right after that Blalock fumble into the backcourt thing, he got it down to Williamson in the corner for a wide open three... guess who was supposed to be guarding him? Hmm...

[angel]

they cut the lead and got close, ryan was subbed on , lead blew out again hmmmm

There were groans around where I was sitting when he came on.

From FB: Great attendance at the game tonight, 4532 the official number here at the Kingdome.

With the Blalock thing, if I have the right moment the guy in front said it was because they weren't in control of the ball.

[curious]

Kings lose another.
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/basketball/pain-persists-for-sick-kings-20110109-19jkr.html

[mattic]

Schenscher top rebounded for the Crocs tonight. Oh, no. Hang on. How does it go? Ah! That's right...

Ahem!

Wow! Completely crap boxing out from the Red-Haired Git tonight, with the Crocs point guards combining for a lousy 5 rebounds. And the Red-Haired Git got ZERO steals! Geeeeeezzzzz!
Just another example of atrocious recruitment and administration at the Crocs.

Did I mention Red-Haired Git yet? Geeeezzzz!

[AngusH]

Dann was a big stand out tonight, and like someone else mentioned previously (here or Kings thread) you can see that he's looking to get the ball into Jules, doesn't force it, but he's got a really good eye, and his effort was great, especially since Jules played every minute and looked to get a bit tired and not as active, so Dann's great effort overall really helped...

Hmmmm. I'm really not sure what everyone sees in Dann. Every time he does something with the ball I find myself thinking "Oh no! Pass it! PASS IT!" and if his shot goes in, it's more relief than genuine joy. I think both Dann and Martin look to get it to Khaz a little TOO much, especially when he's under pressure. It's a good thing that Khaz has pretty good hands and is often able to reel in the risky passes.

It was a disappointing loss, but at this stage, I just want to be entertained more than anything else, and it was an entertaining game. Some nice dunks, although mixed in with the usual sloppiness and piss-poor D we've come to expect from this Kings squad. I mean seriously, how many times are we going to get beaten by the exact some back-cuts before we figure out how to counter it?

[crocintaipanterritory]

Schenscher top rebounded for the Crocs tonight. Oh, no. Hang on. How does it go? Ah! That's right...

Ahem!

Wow! Completely crap boxing out from the Red-Haired Git tonight, with the Crocs point guards combining for a lousy 5 rebounds. And the Red-Haired Git got ZERO steals! Geeeeeezzzzz! Just another example of atrocious recruitment and administration at the Crocs.

Did I mention Red-Haired Git yet? Geeeezzzz!

yes and as always, crocs board/ceo/coach are stupid, got their heads in the sand, need to open up the cheque book blah, blah, blah, etc, etc ,etc,keep up the good work MC !;)

[Nerf Herder]

I like Dann's hustle, and while I think Martin is the main offender with throwing some crazy passes in to Jules (you're right about him having great hands, some of the passes he reels in have been mind boggling), I think Dann is one of those that's gotten told he shouldn't shoot too much, as he dribbles into teh key and then forces it to someone else, which I think is where most of his brain fades/turnovers come from...

I don't think anyone on the team however is exempt from poor handling of the ball tonight... Some real shockers... Nearly as bad as their D :(

[Warpig]

Love your wrap ups Nerf, real passion and insight too...

now I think the Kings will continue to lose games no matter how many times they change imports or players, but only when a decent coach is at the helm will they win games...

offensive structure down the stretch is out the window, time outs when you hear them are pathetic...set plays...boing...gone...

the guys who got the Kings going again must act and act quickly to get this M(G)oose out...

[Daevo]

ryan was subbed on

Ryan was second only to Khazzouh in minutes played until last night when Sanders edged him out:
http://www.sportingpulse.com/team_info.cgi?c=0-189-88249-119318-369912&a=STATS

[gangsta boo]

Ryan was second only to Khazzouh in minutes played until last night when Sanders edged him out:
http://www.sportingpulse.com/team_info.cgi?c=0-189-88249-119318-369912&a=STATS

oh wow. and I cant say I noticed him do anything!

[Nerf Herder]

Ryan was second only to Khazzouh in minutes played until last night when Sanders edged him out:
http://www.sportingpulse.com/team_info.cgi?c=0-189-88249-119318-369912&a=STATS

Come on Daevo, we know that stats don't tell the whole story ;) I'm sure he contributed in many other valuable areas... lol... Wait, no, I can't go on... Probably the most inaffective player per minute then I would wager? Well, currently on the roster at least...

[paul]

That stat is a little mischievious because it is total minutes played, but more than anything he has been poorly used. He should play one side of the court, working from wing to corner spreading the defence and shooting the three if his man leaves him. He hasnt been shooting brilliantly, but he has had to force stuff up at times when nothing else is working - he has hit a decent enough % of open looks that the defence needs to stick on him.

The Kings should use that to their advantage - he should never set foot in the paint offensively and should not be running pick and rolls. He is shooter, X marks the spot, catch and shoot.

[Cussy]

the kings are my second team
Ok then....so where does it leave the Tigers then?

[curious]

That stat is a little mischievious because it is total minutes played, but more than anything he has been poorly used. He should play one side of the court, working from wing to corner spreading the defence and shooting the three if his man leaves him. He hasnt been shooting brilliantly, but he has had to force stuff up at times when nothing else is working - he has hit a decent enough % of open looks that the defence needs to stick on him.

The Kings should use that to their advantage - he should never set foot in the paint offensively and should not be running pick and rolls. He is shooter, X marks the spot, catch and shoot.

Looking for a job?? ;)

[paul]

If only I could shoot!! Or did you mean on the sideline?!

[Blaze Bandit]

Love your wrap ups Nerf, real passion and insight too...

now I think the Kings will continue to lose games no matter how many times they change imports or players, but only when a decent coach is at the helm will they win games...

offensive structure down the stretch is out the window, time outs when you hear them are pathetic...set plays...boing...gone...

the guys who got the Kings going again must act and act quickly to get this M(G)oose out...

Well said!!!!
And I will say it again.......Brendan Joyce (without Daniel)!

[curious]

If only I could shoot!! Or did you mean on the sideline?!
Sideline, undoubtedly.

[timeforachange]

Here ... esp. the bolded part..



... So you were asked what needs changing ... you all of a sudden went AWOL on answering that one.




You're probably not aware of my history( its been awhile since we had one of those" How Did You Get Your Username" threads) ... but I am a Kings fan living in Melbourne. Long story short ...I'm originally from Sydney ... I moved here chasing the girl of my dreams(who became my wife & mother to our 4 children). Twenty yrs later & I've made Melbourne home.I know of at least 2 other Kings' fans now living in Melbourne( one who posts on here & one who used to post on here). So a Croc living in Cairns would be nothing unusual & probably one of many plausible reasons why he lives there.






.. If you're not happy with their coverage ... send them an email ... after all...


If nothing changes, nothing changes.....

I will be sending a letter to the editor, sent one last week regrading someone complaining about the lack of halftime entertainment but it was never published.

As form my handle it came from a guy called Justin Herald www.justinherald.com he is a business speaker, motivator. It has nothing whatsoever to do with the Croc's. I can't understand why Cantremember and Crocintaipanland think it's against the Croc's.

[Cussy]

cantremeber is only hoping it is something against the Crocs. He spends his time here looking for allies to join him in bad-mouthing the club at every opportunity.

[SB.1]

Well said!!!!
And I will say it again.......Brendan Joyce (without Daniel)!

The scary thing is Daniel could actually look like he legitimately earned his spot on this squad.

[KEVY47]

Few pics from last nights game:
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5202/5337925388_27331b6e57_z.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5090/5337297009_8cc063a9c8_z.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5164/5337916732_2d62f613e1_z.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5282/5337276269_ffb8cd5f51_z.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5241/5337302015_67203465e1_z.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5045/5337904992_e2008a67c6_z.jpg


More... (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevy47/sets/72157625780090000/with/5337292129/)

[Cussy]

Did Rusty have his period?

[Blaze Bandit]

The scary thing is Daniel could actually look like he legitimately earned his spot on this squad.

Lol.....you are right there SB.1;)

[Melb Wildcat]

That Sanders pic made me laugh.

[Nerf Herder]

The scary thing is Daniel could actually look like he legitimately earned his spot on this squad.

:mad: lol...

That Sanders pic made me laugh.

lol... One looks a lot more appreciative of the angle than the other one does... Glad to see it's not just guys getting an eyeful at the games :)

[SB.1]

I can't work out which one is my favourite - the first or the last. Completely role reversal for the spectators on that first one. Love the eye roll.

[cantremeber]

I will be sending a letter to the editor, sent one last week regrading someone complaining about the lack of halftime entertainment but it was never published.

As form my handle it came from a guy called Justin Herald www.justinherald.com he is a business speaker, motivator. It has nothing whatsoever to do with the Croc's. I can't understand why Cantremember and Crocintaipanland think it's against the Croc's.

Where did I say you were having ago at the Crocs??? The other guy - yeah, he sounded quite touchy on it all but me - nah.

And ignore cussy - he's a twerp from WA. Obsessed little twerp, I might add.

[DJ Rod]

Cantremember - I challenge you to say something positive about the crocs after last night's game.

We always see you picking any tiny negative, even after a win... Let's see what u got!

[cantremeber]

Cantremember - I challenge you to say something positive about the crocs after last night's game.

We always see you picking any tiny negative, even after a win... Let's see what u got!

I can do that - with some reservations.

They won on the road

But...against a team thats what 1 and 14 - they should have bloody well won on the road. They should have swept the floor with them.

I posted the shooting percentages of the big men; what was it....3 from 17 - and where any of them from further out than 5 foot?

They won the rebound count but lost the t/o duel

Both teams shot the ball woefully....low 40%...and we shot 50% from the line - poor by any measure.

Will, PC and Williamson all stood up and produced.

All in all a win but one that they should have gotten but one without the exclamation point they could have and perhaps should have made.

Using my self-made barometer of scoring - the Crocs output was "failed to please" and the Kings was "pathetic". A game I probably wouldn't have really enjoyed as a BB spectacle

Now I see that to be a fair description of their effort....no?

[Cussy]

Where did I say you were having ago at the Crocs??? The other guy - yeah, he sounded quite touchy on it all but me - nah.

And ignore cussy - he's a twerp from WA. Obsessed little twerp, I might add.

Don't forget "thrives on discord and angst."

[cantremeber]

Don't forget "thrives on discord and angst."

Could not have said it better myself - Oh wait! - I did say that....as true today as the day it was uttered.

[Cussy]

Oh, how you hurt my feelings!

[mattic]

Cantremember - I challenge you to say something positive about the crocs after last night's game. I can do that
Failed to please.
We always see you picking any tiny negative, even after a win
They won on the road
But...against a team thats what 1 and 14. They should have swept the floor with them.
I posted the shooting percentages of the big men; what was it....3 from 17 - and where any of them from further out than 5 foot?

They won the rebound count but lost the t/o duel

Both teams shot the ball woefully....low 40%...and we shot 50% from the line - poor by any measure.

Will, PC and Williamson all stood up and produced.

All in all a win but one that they should have gotten but one without the exclamation point they could have and perhaps should have made.

Using my self-made barometer of scoring - the Crocs output was "failed to please" and the Kings was "pathetic". A game I probably wouldn't have really enjoyed as a BB spectacle
Now I see that to be a fair description of their effort....no?
A spade is a spade. What's good about it?
Let's see what u got!
Failed to please.

[conair]

Failed to please.

But...... correct oh imo...

[cantremeber]

Failed to please.



A spade is a spade. What's good about it?

Failed to please.

Really...the only good things are as I posted

If you can take more out that win - well then, you dont expect much.

[Southern Joe]

... Not the point. The challenge was to "say something positive about the crocs after last night's game."

.. I didn't see anywhere in the challenge where it said to temper it with your own self hate for YOUR own team.

You got the win.. you guys should be happy with that .. regardless of the current status of the opposition.

[DJ Rod]

I can do that - with some reservations.

They won on the road

But...against a team thats what 1 and 14 - they should have bloody well won on the road. They should have swept the floor with them.

I posted the shooting percentages of the big men; what was it....3 from 17 - and where any of them from further out than 5 foot?

They won the rebound count but lost the t/o duel

Both teams shot the ball woefully....low 40%...and we shot 50% from the line - poor by any measure.

Will, PC and Williamson all stood up and produced.

All in all a win but one that they should have gotten but one without the exclamation point they could have and perhaps should have made.

Using my self-made barometer of scoring - the Crocs output was "failed to please" and the Kings was "pathetic". A game I probably wouldn't have really enjoyed as a BB spectacle

Now I see that to be a fair description of their effort....no?

a terrible effort on your part... no?

It was a simple psychological test to see if you could do it without adding your usual BS. You failed! A bad character flaw.

How about it make it a bit easier for you:

Just say something/anything positive about the Crocs but without mentioning your mate The Croc. Lets see what you got...

[Cussy]

Most people, when they show a deep hatred for something, will back up their remarks with a reason for their feelings. Most people can justify their negative comments, and if they feel that strongly about something, they usually aren't afraid to say why.

For whatever reason, Bob can neither state what his issue with the club is, nor can he make a simple comment - it always has to be disguised as a "maybe/perhaps/or am I" childrens nursery rhyme. I'm guessing that whatever the reason he has to hate the Crocs is, it's either extremely unjustified, or he is too embarrassed to say.

[Derek]

That's all, the local paper runs stories on the Fury front centre and back, I was just asking the question as to why nothing about the Croc's on a game day Saturday.

"Crocs pay players on time, win games" isn't as enticing a headline as "Fury need $1,500,000 in a month". (And I'm a Fury supporter :( )

Also, the Fury were at home and the Bully (as sponsors) were trying to drum up ticket sales. The Crocs get that level of coverage for home games.

DN

[cantremeber]

... Not the point. The challenge was to "say something positive about the crocs after last night's game."

.. I didn't see anywhere in the challenge where it said to temper it with your own self hate for YOUR own team.

You got the win.. you guys should be happy with that .. regardless of the current status of the opposition.

Crap. Where does it say that a critique of a team performance has to only be couched in positive terms.

I was asked to say something positive - I did. They won and a few guys played well. But against the Kings - well frankly, anyone and everyone is beating their ass so a 7 pt spread...hardly a convincing win, now is it.

And from what I heard....aside from a burst of scoring of 8-2 - the Crocs played on par with the worst team in the league.

But a win is a win.

I then gave a critique of the game that was realistic and hardly one that was inaccurate.

I'll leave the fawning and orgasmic descriptions to the died-in-the-wool, love-my-team-no-matter-what and truly rusted-on fans.

[Nerf Herder]

I love it when we share game threads with the Crocs :D

/me looks forward to Feb 26th :)

[Cussy]

Crap. Where does it say that a critique of a team performance has to only be couched in positive terms.

I was asked to say something positive - I did. They won and a few guys played well. But against the Kings - well frankly, anyone and everyone is beating their ass so a 7 pt spread...hardly a convincing win, now is it.

And from what I heard....aside from a burst of scoring of 8-2 - the Crocs played on par with the worst team in the league.

But a win is a win.

I then gave a critique of the game that was realistic and hardly one that was inaccurate.

I'll leave the fawning and orgasmic descriptions to the died-in-the-wool, love-my-team-no-matter-what and truly rusted-on fans.

Yet when the Crocs beat the top of the table Breakers on NYE, you said.....nothing. Not even a box score analysis, which is really the extent of your input here. Why not?

[cantremeber]

Yet when the Crocs beat the top of the table Breakers on NYE, you said.....nothing. Not even a box score analysis, which is really the extent of your input here. Why not?

I was indisposed at the time. Unable to post.

[Cussy]

Box scores are still available online.

[cantremeber]

Box scores are still available online.

Wasnt online...heres my sequential posts during that period and you can see the gap


Forum: National Basketball League 04-01-2011, 12:59 PM
Replies: 151
Marty Clarke proposes 1 import per team.
Views: 2,726
Posted By cantremeber
Not many of them...really.

Not many of them...really.
Forum: National Basketball League 24-12-2010, 08:51 PM
Replies: 38
36ers v Crocodiles (Thurs 23 Dec)
Views: 1,145
Posted By cantremeber
Or a term of endearment..... Really....it...

Or a term of endearment.....

Really....it doesn't really matter.

[meg]

Wasnt online...


http://www.sportingpulse.com/round_info.cgi?a=MATCH&fixture=216842532&c=0-189-0-119318-0&pool=-1

[cantremeber]

http://www.sportingpulse.com/round_info.cgi?a=MATCH&fixture=216842532&c=0-189-0-119318-0&pool=-1

Thanx, Meg

Whats not to like?!?! Thrashed the #1 team - outshot em from the field...outrebounded them...good 3 pt %. All seemed to contribute.

Play like that consistently and they'll go somewhere.

[DDFan]

Are people over-reacting here? :shock:
Fact is, the Crocs won. That is indeed a positive, for Croc fans, sitting on the fence Croc fans & it was even acknowledged by a supposed Croc hater. :shock:
It still remains that it wasn't a convincing win. A win against a team with a coach that even diehard Kings fans don't think is uP to scratch. Against a lower budget team, that has gone through major personnel changes & significant injury setbacks.
You'd have to be Southern Joe blinkered (no disrespect intended), to see that win as a statement of superiority, or a leapfrog to the Grand Final.
FFS, move on.

[Cussy]

Honestly - if the boys cant go to Sydney and slap those girls around and win by a healthy margin - they're pretenders.



They'll win to night for sure - if they lose....geeeeezzzzzzz......


Scores are all level in Sydney...Kings doing very well so far.

LS - 2 pts
Hinder - 0 pts
R Ellis - 4 pts
B Allen - 2 pts

Aggregate - 4 for 17

Huh....?

I can do that - with some reservations.



Are people over-reacting here?

You'd have to be Southern Joe blinkered (no disrespect intended), to see that win as a statement of superiority, or a leapfrog to the Grand Final.

If you think that these posts are not from someone who doesn't have an agenda to make his team look bad, I'd be surprised. No one asked him to state that the team was firm title favourites because they beat the struggling Kings. He was asked to state the positives. He simply couldn't....or wouldn't, but then turns it around so that anyone that questioned why not is automatically a head-in-the-sand supporter. And this happens every time, all the while he protests his innocence. It's the most pathetic routine.

So no, it's not an over reaction. It's the perfect reaction.

[DDFan]

I've taken a massive hit in acknowledging that Homicide's a tool.

I dream of world peace, so cut me some slack on cantremeber for a while. ;)

BTW, drop into hoopsSA if you want an uPdate on knowledgable fan supporters.

[cantremeber]

If you think that these posts are not from someone who doesn't have an agenda to make his team look bad, I'd be surprised. No one asked him to state that the team was firm title favourites because they beat the struggling Kings. He was asked to state the positives. He simply couldn't....or wouldn't, but then turns it around so that anyone that questioned why not is automatically a head-in-the-sand supporter. And this happens every time, all the while he protests his innocence. It's the most pathetic routine.

So no, it's not an over reaction. It's the perfect reaction.

Cussy cussy cussy...the obsession continues. wanna know what I had for morning tea as well?

For the record. I thought they would win and more importanly I said they outta win and win big. No agenda there although for a conspiracy nutter like yourself - I can see the grist for your mill.

The post on the "Kings doing well" was a joke as the game hadn't even started yet and I was...never mind....forget it.

The cumulative states on the big men were just that - standout stats and ones I might add the Bulletin found merit in making mention of... Again - no agenda.

As for the rest of you post - I might point out that I've never claimed to be a fan of the team - hence I probably wouldn't or shouldn't be construed as a "fan" of the Crocs nor are they "my team".

More a follower of the team with an interest in how they do and there is a difference although the subtlety of it is probably beyond you.

[Southern Joe]

Crap. Where does it say that a critique of a team performance has to only be couched in positive terms.


Easy ... right here ....

"say something positive about the crocs after last night's game."



Thats all you were asked to do. You weren't asked to do a match report ... you weren't asked to critique box scores ..... You were asked ONE thing.


.. In case you MISSED it ... here is that ONE thing ...

"say something positive about the crocs after last night's game."



I was asked to say something positive - I did.


... And if you had've just done that the worst thing you would've suffered is a sarcastic .. " See that wasn't so hard ...was it?"

They won and a few guys played well. But against the Kings - well frankly, anyone and everyone is beating their ass so a 7 pt spread...hardly a convincing win, now is it.

.. Look at the Kings losses... hardly anything that reads a blowout. 2 17pt losses & a bunch of low double digit losses. Its not like their getting their arses handed to them every week with development players scoring career highs against them. Look at the Doomsday Double ..... we lost by 4 pts to the 6ers then by only 3 pts to the defending champs.

I know its more the MANNER in which we've lost ... but I reckon we're due for a win ... the key is for the guys to actually hold on & grasp victory.

.. But don't play this Team A should always beat Team B crap .... if it ALWAYS worked .... then we should ALL be able to pick the winner every week.

And from what I heard....aside from a burst of scoring of 8-2 - the Crocs played on par with the worst team in the league.

But a win is a win.

.. Where did you hear this ? No-one has posted anything like that that was at the game ... or did we miss that?

I then gave a critique of the game that was realistic and hardly one that was inaccurate.

... You could've done that elsewhere ( don't know what evidence you would base it on...)

I'll leave the fawning and orgasmic descriptions to the died-in-the-wool, love-my-team-no-matter-what and truly rusted-on fans.
:confused:

[cantremeber]

Easy ... right here ....

Thats all you were asked to do. You weren't asked to do a match report ... you weren't asked to critique box scores ..... You were asked ONE thing.


I love this internet thing - people make the rules and then make others abide by them.

I was asked to make a positive comment but because it was the ONLY thing presumably asked for (syntax would counter that btw) then my contribution HAS to end...there. Says who??

What is this some sort of totalitarian place?

If I have a comment to make - whether it meets or exceeds the point that was raised - so be it.

Geez...this is like a schoolyard in here.

[DDFan]

OK, I'm a delusional dreamer when it comes to world peace, so I'm prepared to settle for some OzHo peace. We're all reasonable & mature here aren't we?






Ah WTF, I actually agree with cantrember.

*runs for cover

[cantremeber]

OK, I'm a delusional dreamer when it comes to world peace, so I'm prepared to settle for some OzHo peace. We're all reasonable & mature here aren't we?

Ah WTF, I actually agree with cantrember.

*runs for cover

Awhhhh...shucks!

Whats not to agree with.......?

[Stumps]

Somewhat stunningly, I agree with cantremeber AND DDFan. If he doesn't feel positive, why does he have to say something positive? Just ignore him if he pisses you off.

[mattic]

A mechanic doesn't have to repair your car. But if he accepted the job, you'd feel compelled to comment if all he did was remove the wheels.

[DDFan]

A mechanic doesn't have to repair your car. But if he accepted the job, you'd feel compelled to comment if all he did was remove the wheels.Is that an ad hominen or a tu quoque thinga me Bob? Not that it matters. :p

Booked in for a head job have you mattic? You won't be outta pocket, it'll be cover by the public health system.

[DDFan]

How good is this timing?

Stumps this is just a test of mattic's integrity, not aimed at you in any way, but remember you saying that no-one believes that I'm happy?

How come mattic didn't fly into you? ;)

[Southern Joe]

Somewhat stunningly, I agree with cantremeber AND DDFan. If he doesn't feel positive, why does he have to say something positive? Just ignore him if he pisses you off.


... No disrespect intended ... but here we have a serial pest for his own team . He has a decent amount of history where he has bagged his own team & seems to take pleasure in their failings. Reminds of a Kings fan from years ago "Michellie".

Can I then expect that the next time someone pisses you off you'll just ignore them? ;)

[cantremeber]

... No disrespect intended ... but here we have a serial pest for his own team . He has a decent amount of history where he has bagged his own team & seems to take pleasure in their failings. Reminds of a Kings fan from years ago "Michellie".

Can I then expect that the next time someone pisses you off you'll just ignore them? ;)

Own team? Not a fan of them but rather a follower of their fortunes....

Is that ok with you - I sure do hope so....

[Southern Joe]

... Sif I care.

[Stumps]

Can I then expect that the next time someone pisses you off you'll just ignore them? ;)
What do you think has happened the last 1000 times somebody pissed me off?

[Herbie Hancock]

While I have nothing of value to add to this debate (or much else for that matter), the name "Michellie" takes me back to a time where myself, Fat Lever and Manute Bol lurked on the old Kings forum and had numerous run-ins with her/him.

Anyway, after re-activating my account on here just recently, I look forward to once again being able to add minimal value on most subjects discussed.

[DDFan]

This thread isgetting funnier by the moment. I'm on mattic's ignore list, so he's semi-excused for his, avoidance makes his big twattilage.
Could someone discreetly forward the question that I put to Stumps, about why he didn't challenge Stumps for saying that "no-one believes I'm happy", please?
It's always nice to get resolution to these miniscule distracting anomalies. :p

[SB.1]

I look forward to once again being able to add minimal value on most subjects discussed.

Join the club!

[Southern Joe]

What do you think has happened the last 1000 times somebody pissed me off?


Quote Fest!!! :cool:

[DDFan]

What do you think has happened the last 1000 times somebody pissed me off?

Quote Fest!!! :cool::D

Stumps has said many a time that his debates (quote fests) are a great source of personal enjoyment, so they may not necessarily come from being pissed off. ;)

[Stumps]

Quote Fest!!! :cool:
Joe, if only you knew how much stuff on here I just roll my eyes at and move on from.

[Dunkin' Dan]

Joe, if only you knew how much stuff on here I just roll my eyes at and move on from.

Tell me about it.
Remember that time someone posted some bollocks about the seasons reversing and the white christmas being in the southern hemisphere in the future?
Yikes!

[Southern Joe]

.... Thats probably true.

My problem there is .....

I can't see you while you are viewing/typing etc ...hehehe

[mattic]

Tell me about it.
Remember that time someone posted some bollocks about the seasons reversing and the white christmas being in the southern hemisphere in the future?
Yikes!
Oh! I missed that.
I hope it happens, though. Christmas in Oz sucks a bit due to the 40 degree temperatures.

EDIT: As you were, I've caught up now :-)

[Southern Joe]

Tell me about it.
Remember that time someone posted some bollocks about the seasons reversing and the white christmas being in the southern hemisphere in the future?
Yikes!

Wasn't MY opinion ... it was some other dude & I was relaying it in tune with the topic under discussion( elsewhere for the plebs not on OT) . Does that mean if you quote Julia Gillard we can say that was YOUR idea?

Yikes....

[Dunkin' Dan]

Wasn't MY opinion ... it was some other dude & I was relaying it in tune with the topic under discussion
I know it wasn't your opinion.
I said someone posted it (which they did - you), and it was some bollocks (which it was).
It was eye-roll-worthy, and I moved on, thus the comparison. I never blamed you for coming up with it.

Does that mean if you quote Julia Gillard we can say that was YOUR idea?
Go right ahead. It's moot because I would never quote anything she said.

Anyway, moving forward, let's get this back on topic.

[Southern Joe]

I know it wasn't your opinion.
I said someone posted it (which they did - you), and it was some bollocks (which it was).
It was eye-roll-worthy, and I moved on, thus the comparison. I never blamed you for coming up with it.



.. Fair enough.