Wildcats @ Hawks 10/10/08

[angry ant]

Where and When: Friday 10 October, Wollongong Entertainment Centre, 7.30pm (AEDT)

Past Three Head-to-Head
Perth Wildcats 105-92 Wollongong Hawks, Round 3 2008.
Perth Wildcats 92-69 Wollongong Hawks, Round 9 2007.
Wollongong Hawks 114-97 Perth Wildcats, Round 6 2007.

Season Series
Wildcats 1-0

Current Standings
Hawks (1-3) ninth, Wildcats (3-3) fifth

Sport FM 91.3 will have regular updates from 4:30 pm (AWST) http://www.sportfm.com.au/listenlive.html

[Brew]

i got my money on the Hawks for this clash... Good value to

Perth, can they back it up after a good win against the Tigers?

its just a feeling, but Hawks by 6points.

[garvs]

cats by 9 :)

[SteelPants48]

I really expected the Hawks to be a stronger team than what they have shown so far this year.

With so many experienced players who have been winners with other teams I am quite shocked at some of the performances that key players have mustered up.

The Wildcats have a great roster but have two players out through injury and are coming off a tough away game only days ago.

On perhaps the basis of blind loyalty I pick the Hawks to finally gel as a team and beat the Wildcats by 9.

[Gong4life]

I will be there to cheer them on as usual! :lol:

I think the Hawks will lift their intesity tonight and win by double figues. GO YOU HAWKIES!

[bad gambler]

I went down last week to watch the Hawks/Dragons game and a lot of the Hawks players looked like they didn't want to be there, they lacked intensity the whole night.

With that kind of attitude it's hard to see them winning tonight

[viper]

I really expected the Hawks to be a stronger team than what they have shown so far this year.

I hope so. Their performance against the dragons was one of the worst i have seen. I agree in thinking they are capable of being a stronger team than what they have shown but whether or not they come through with the goods.... we'll have to wait and see.

no disrespect to cookie but i dont think he is up to the job of a head coach in this league just yet. hope he proves me wrong though.

[SteelPants48]

I really expected the Hawks to be a stronger team than what they have shown so far this year.

I hope so. Their performance against the dragons was one of the worst i have seen. I agree in thinking they are capable of being a stronger team than what they have shown but whether or not they come through with the goods.... we'll have to wait and see.

no disrespect to cookie but i dont think he is up to the job of a head coach in this league just yet. hope he proves me wrong though.

My thinking with Cookie is that any team with Saville, Franklin, Rychart, Campbell should not need the coach to ensure the team is motivated. These guys are experienced players who should be ensuring that they and the rest of the team are suitably fired up for games. From the first few games of the season the team seems to lack intensity on defense.

Cookie should really only have to give these guys a structure within which to go to work. I think structurally the team would benefeit with Franklin playing more time at the 2 and Tait and Carter handling the 1. Campbell can back up the 2 and 3 spots really well.

[Big Shot Joey]

Everyone tipping the Hawks? I'm going to go against the trend and tip Perth, they would be on a high after beating Tigers @ the cage.

This is the second of three games this week for the Cats, Spirit tomorrow and Hawks again later in the week, which doesn't look to good for the cats (who makes this schedule anyway it is piss poor) The Hawks are relying heavily on Dusty and Saville who I think the Wildcats can cover. So it may come down to depth where I think Perth have the edge. Wildcats, just, as long as they have no more injuries.

It would be good for a Hawks loss, it would keep the Blaze in touch with the other teams at the bottom

[Dunkin' Dan]

Normally 2 days between games should be fine for us and I'd happily tip the Cats. I'm just a little worried about the guys like Loughton & Hinson, who went into Wednesday's game under an injury cloud.
If they pulled up ok then we really should get this one.

[Stanley]

Hopefully the real Kavossy plays tonight - the gun that carried Hawks most of last season.

So far in 08/09 he's the Hawks 6th leading scorer with 10ppg, just 1ppg ahead of 7th (Davidson) - though assists are up despite 10mins per game down on last year.

Just browsing nblstats, Larry is shooting 62% & 67% from deep, Campbell is also hitting over 50% inside and out.

Sav has been more effective on the road, than at the Sandpit -
Perhaps his 400th Hawks game will jump start things for Hawks?

[A Really Bad Bass Player]

I hope we can get it. All great points made so far. See you at the game

[fan since the old snakepit]

On form the Cats are specials, but if the Hawks are within 5 at the start of the 4th look out.

[WilloWildWaves]

The Cats should be full of confidence from nocking of the Tigers ( despite what seems to be another 4th qu fade out) and as long as those players who had those niggling injuries have pulled up alright they should win this game. Victor seemed to finish off alright in Melbourne, so I'm looking for a big game from him :D

[the_ox]

The Cats should be full of confidence from nocking of the Tigers ( despite what seems to be another 4th qu fade out) and as long as those players who had those niggling injuries have pulled up alright they should win this game. Victor seemed to finish off alright in Melbourne, so I'm looking for a big game from him :D

Only thing im looking for is the link to radio coverage... and not the "regular updates" one. NBL games have turned into beers at my house and sit and watch the laptop update... its a frikken joke

[bad gambler]

Cats 10-7 after 3min

[Allen]

Do we have any internet links?

[Arnold]

The Internet, is that thing still around.

[Julian]

Can we get a hand up on Saville please.

[The Howster]

Links to both tonight's games are here:

http://www.nbl.com.au/default.aspx?s=livescores

[Poida]

Fantastic.

All I get is 6 Sponsor Logos and no live scores

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[Allen]

Links to both tonight's games are here:

http://www.nbl.com.au/default.aspx?s=livescores

Thanks

[The Howster]

It's fine on my browser so let me know which one you are using and I will get it looked at. Direct link to game is:

http://www.fibalivestats.com/matches/1329/00/27/43/74dEc1v1AkI/

[Poida]

No need to Howster. Its just showed up after about the 10th refresh :lol:

[Silencer83]

It concerns me that the the leagues assist leader has no assists after 3 quarters of action :?

[quando quando]

I am watching this game on the FIBA stats drop down and as a Hawks supporter I have just about wripped all my hair out.
I am getting very frustrated.It is end of 3rd quarter and up by 1. Start of quarter up by more than 10.
I might have to switch off to save the agony.

[Dunkin' Dan]

Ouch - that sounds wreally painful.

Redhage gives the Cats the lead ... 66-68, 4 min into the 4th. Low-scoring game!

[Arnold]

That is concerning.

4 point lead to the Cats. Timeout Hawks.

[Silencer83]

8pt lead to the Wildcats, both teams in the bonus situation :|

[Arnold]

9 points now, GOAT running away with it.

[Arnold]

Google [Bot], stop lurking and post more!

[Dunkin' Dan]

4 points now. GOAT starting to seize up a bit.

[Arnold]

Chew your cuds more before you swallow, GOAT!

[Arnold]

Hmm our over-reliance on Redhage for points is worrying despite our current predicament.

[Dunkin' Dan]

Any vets here that know the heimlich manoeuvre? The GOAT is getting kinda purple in the face. 82 apiece now.

[Arnold]

Offensive foul on Loughton, fark :( That's shots, isn't it?

Lol Saville is 3/15 from the land of plenty.

[Dunkin' Dan]

Timeout. Hawks ball with 24 sec. left (but I think only 15 sec. left on their shot clock)

[Dunkin' Dan]

Dusty for threeeeee :(

[Arnold]

Rychart drills a 3 with 4 seconds remaining. We need a miracle.

[Arnold]

We had a 7 point lead with 2:15 remaining. Unbelievable.

[Dunkin' Dan]

Can we trust that clock? Should have been a shot clock violation for him to hit the three 29 seconds into their possession. I'm *hoping* there is still at least 9 seconds for us.

[Edit] Alex missed the 3 anyway. Game over.

[madskree]

That ending makes me sad... we need to see a clip of that Loughton offensive, to see if it was similar to the one against the Dragons.

[Silencer83]

What a time for the 25% Career 3pt shooter to hit the shot :evil:

[Dunkin' Dan]

Quite a choke there at the end by the Cats.
That basically undoes all the good work done in getting that "bonus" win over the Tigers the other night. :evil:

Would have been rocking in the Sandpit in the last minute or two.

[Hoffa]

Should have closed that last 2 minutes easily :shock:

[Poida]

Wow, and to think the Wildcats couldn't get it done while keeping Kavossy scoreless! :shock:

[quando quando]

my computer went haywire with 4 seconds to go.
If i understand it right it was worth going bald for. A win just about on the buzzer.
Don't know if I could do this every week.

[djmenow]

PC with a horror night. I see Victor with only 19 minutes. 15 pts though. I suppose they are trying to spread the minutes with another game to go this weekend.

Our last qtrs are killing us.

[Arnold]

Tomorrow night becomes super important to get the win now. Beating the Tigers is no good if we're gonna go 1-3 on this road trip.

[Hoffa]

When Dowdell attempted two 3's in a row with 3 minutes to go, I got worried.

[Dunkin' Dan]

Wow, and to think the Wildcats couldn't get it done while keeping Kavossy scoreless! :shock:
:shock: Whoa! Didn't even notice that. Sounds like Devlin went on a road trip this week :wink:

[dvda]

Did saville really shoot 3 for 15 from downtown?
His stats were good besides that 19 pts 15 rebs 5 asts and 5 stls.
Great win by the hawks!
Even though my boy lazza davidson didnt play well.

[fan since the old snakepit]

That ending makes me sad... we need to see a clip of that Loughton offensive, to see if it was similar to the one against the Dragons.
Faked right and then dribbled left from the right 45. Trigger read the play and Alex caught him right in the middle. Simple call.

[Latts]

What you might not see in the box scores is 3 unsportsmanlikes against the hawks (2 in the first 5:30 of the match), a double foul (Hinson and Tragardh from memory), and about 50 bazillion travels on both teams.

[fan since the old snakepit]

When Dowdell attempted two 3's in a row with 3 minutes to go, I got worried.
He was wide open , but yes one would be curious as why he was even on the court.

[Tigers_06-07]

What you might not see in the box scores is 3 unsportsmanlikes against the hawks (2 in the first 5:30 of the match), a double foul (Hinson and Tragardh from memory), and about 50 bazillion travels on both teams.Well with the amount of unbelievably obvious travelling violations the Wildcats got away with against the Tigers they probably thought they could get away with it in every game. Obviously this wasn't the case tonight.

[Mike]

Fucking hell I can't stand our fucking fadeouts, hopefully this corrects when Rogers comes back into the lineup

[Arnold]

Cats are the Dockers of the NBL. :oops:

[fan since the old snakepit]

What you might not see in the box scores is 3 unsportsmanlikes against the hawks (2 in the first 5:30 of the match), a double foul (Hinson and Tragardh from memory), and about 50 bazillion travels on both teams.
And in a world first a warning to Redhage from Roger Shiels about stepping over the free throw line early. Red then modified his shooting technique.
Hawks won the game by hanging in the game with decent defence and some huge offensive boards from Dusty Petrie and Sav. For Perth their only threats were Redhage who again was outstanding, Hinson and Victor. Are Weighs knees shot as he seems to be nowhere near the athletic slasher type that he was at the AIS and has turned into spotup(poor one at that) shooter. Ben Knight was terrible as was Crawford.Henry played Victor far to little. Defensively Perth were good and when they went into a zone in the third the Hawks stuggled loosing a 15 point lead.
Hawks were a much improved defensive unit tonight and the effort things were great. Sav had 10 or 12 early and then seemed to get caught up in some personal battles with Redhage that resulted in him jacking up aimless and contested 3 pointers, many of which resulted in an air ball. To his credit , just when yoou are convinced Sav had a shocker ( and in some ways he did) you look at the boxscores and see all the other contributions he brings to the table.
Hawks down by 7 or so with a couple to go and I thought they were gone, but they kept plugging away and from memory held the Cats scoreless in the last few minutes. Small crowd but lots of noise in that last two minutes and a great confidence boosting win.
As for Kavossy I never thought I would see the day when he had lost confidence, but at the moment he is a shodow of the player that we have come to respect for his fighting qualities.

Am a happy man tonight with the dream double. A Hawks win and a Blaze loss. It dont get any better.

[angry ant]

:evil: I think they've had a last quarter fade out in every f'ing game!!

[Arnold]

:evil: I think they've had a last quarter fade out in every f'ing game!!

Losing the last quarter by 2 doesn't really constitute a fade out.

[angry ant]

:evil: I think they've had a last quarter fade out in every f'ing game!!

Losing the last quarter by 2 doesn't really constitute a fade out.
But they were leading by 10 late in the 4th.....

[Arnold]

9.

[Hoffa]

When Dowdell attempted two 3's in a row with 3 minutes to go, I got worried.
He was wide open , but yes one would be curious as why he was even on the court.

Yeah, exactly.

[angry ant]

9.
Petrie (18 points) opened the fourth with a three-point play, but Wollongong suffered a five-minute scoring drought as the 'Cats racked up 13 points to lead by as much as ten.

[Arnold]

FIBA Live Stats says biggest lead was 9.

05:48 67-75 -8 40, Alex Loughton, turnover badpass
05:49 45, Dusty Rychart, steal 67-75 -8
05:53 67-75 -8 40, Alex Loughton, rebound defensive
05:54 45, Dusty Rychart, freethrow missed 67-75 -8
05:54 45, Dusty Rychart, freethrow made 67-75 -8
05:54 45, Dusty Rychart, foulon 66-75 -9
05:54 66-75 -9 42, Shawn Redhage, foul personal
05:57 45, Dusty Rychart, rebound offensive 66-75 -9
05:58 4, Lindsay Tait, shot 3pt missed 66-75 -9
06:06 66-75 -9 40, Alex Loughton, freethrow made
06:06 66-74 -8 40, Alex Loughton, freethrow made
06:06 66-73 -7 40, Alex Loughton, foulon
06:06 17, Anthony Petrie, foul personal 66-73 -7
06:06 66-73 -7 10, Jeff Dowdell, substitution in
06:06 66-73 -7 25, Isiah Victor, substitution out
06:06 5, Kavossy Franklin, substitution in 66-73 -7
06:06 13, Rhys Martin, substitution out 66-73 -7
06:26 66-73 -7 25, Isiah Victor, rebound defensive


I apologise for crappy formatting.

[Moth]

Wow, and to think the Wildcats couldn't get it done while keeping Kavossy scoreless! :shock:
:shock: Whoa! Didn't even notice that. Sounds like Devlin went on a road trip this week :wink:

I don't think Devlin would have been required. Kavossy has been downright awful this season.

[dvda]

Cats are the Dockers of the NBL. :oops:

I think your cats are better than the dockers considering they have won championships!
The Dockers suck except for Pavlich.

[Steve]

:evil: I think they've had a last quarter fade out in every f'ing game!!

Losing the last quarter by 2 doesn't really constitute a fade out.

Oh come on.

We outscored them by 13 - 3 in the first 6 minutes (66-75), only to be outscored 19 - 7 in the last 6 minutes (85-82).

That is a monumental fade-out.

Steve

[Dunkin' Dan]

Cats Final Quarter Fadeouts

Game 1: Got smashed away by the Dragons. Fadeout N/A
Game 2: Led by 12 at home against the Dragons. Managed to lose the game thanks to a 10 point 4th quarter.
Game 3: Can't find the play-by-play, but we had a lead well into the 20's chopped to 10 before steadying to beat GC by 14 at home.
Game 4: Massive lead all game, 26 points at 3Q time, had that cut to 12 but the home win over the Hawks was never in serious jeopardy
Game 5: 3 points down with 4:42 left in the game @ Townsville. Managed to lose that one by 17.
Game 6: 18 point lead @ the Cage with 10:36 left in the game. 8 minutes later the Tigers were in front. Recovered to get the win.
Game 7: 10 point turnaround in just over 2 minutes to lose to the Hawks on the road.

Not really great signs there.

[Melbourne Wildcat]

Its time for Conner to make them do a couple of hours of suicides to improve fitness. Every basketballers nightmare.

[Bench Warmer]

Or worse - 17s!! But not while they're on the road. :P

[Mammon]

glen saville 5/22 FG (3/17 3pt) did all he can 4 a wildcats win but dusty rychart (1/1 3pt) only need one shot to kill things off, what a game winner.


why did saville shoot 17 3pts? he's never an A Class 3pt shooter. the hawks need to change their offensive system, campbell and tait should shoot more 3s, then franklin, then martin, then saville....

[Steve]

Actually Saville is a fairly decent threat from the 3 point line. In 06/07 he hit 70 from 165 attempts at 42%.

With KF not contributing, it looks like Sav stepped up and did what was necessary to generate some points. The Hawks took 21 more shots than the Wildcats last night and that generated 24 offensive boards and 20 second chance points.

Sav is probably the most consistent offensive threat on that team, especially with KF going missing lately and Campbell looking older by the day, and the Hawks season will largely rest on his offensive output.

Last night sounds like it was scrappy, but it worked, and kudos to Cooks for making the necessary adjustments from 9 nights earlier to get the W.

Steve

[curious]

Its time for Conner to make them do a couple of hours of suicides to improve fitness. Every basketballers nightmare.
Yeah great idea.
Couple of HOURS of suicides, shows how much you don't know.

[fan since the old snakepit]

glen saville 5/22 FG (3/17 3pt) did all he can 4 a wildcats win but dusty rychart (1/1 3pt) only need one shot to kill things off, what a game winner.


why did saville shoot 17 3pts? he's never an A Class 3pt shooter. the hawks need to change their offensive system, campbell and tait should shoot more 3s, then franklin, then martin, then saville....

For once I partially agree with your assessment of Sav. The problem was that lots of them lasrt night were not even wide open and were forced. He's a good enough 3 point shooter but it should not be his first option. Now to get back to reallity and your usual crap, to suggest that Tait should shoot more threes is like suggesting SOJ should. He is a very poor three poinbt shooter with shocking technique and that detracts from his ability to get into the lane. If you dont believe me just watch a game where the coach has done a decent scouting job. Campbell rarely left open and closed out on hard. Tait left pretty much open outside the arc and only token pressure. I like Tait but at the moment he is struggling.

Just decided to look at the NBL stats and was amazed to find that Tait shoots 39% career from three. Could have knocked me over. Does not take many and is often wide open so I guess he makes good decisions on when to take them.

[Stanley]

At least 5 of Sav's threes were forced, generally to bail the team out in the dying stages of the shot clock.
Another was a half court heave.

Also mammon - those 14 rebounds, 4 assists and 4 steals Sav really helped Perth :?

[Arnold]

Its time for Conner to make them do a couple of hours of suicides to improve fitness. Every basketballers nightmare.
Yeah great idea.
Couple of HOURS of suicides, shows how much you don't know.

Great idea to make them run suicides just prior to their 4th game in a week. Why aren't you coaching the team, CW?

[Stanley]

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[anonymouse]

Wish i was there for that shot..... Oh well.

Hopefully by the time im back in the 2500 Kavossy will be back on his game, and we will be filling up the W column.

[A Really Bad Bass Player]

what happened to Larry Davidson???? Why didn't he play in the 2nd half?

I missed the first one, but I would like to thanks the dumb arse ref's for actually uniting our team! Did the best job that the team has struggled with...

[Stanley]

Larry got concussion

[Stanley]

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