2007/08 FNBL Player Listings (locked down)

[Skindog the Hawk]

Here are the indicative player listings, firstly by team, and then by position.

Discussion is now open on positioning...feel free to contribute.

List last updated: Friday 31 August

Players by team
5 Maher Brett Guard ADL
6 Sutton Matthew Guard ADL
8 Ng Darren Guard ADL
11 Cooper David Centre ADL
14 Davidson Brad Guard ADL
20 Chappell Mike Forward ADL import
21 Copeland Lanard Guard ADL
23 Dodman Jordan Centre ADL
30 Dench Axel Centre ADL
54 Ballinger Adam Forward ADL import

1 Gibson Adam Guard BRI
3 Bruton CJ Guard BRI
4 Williamson Brad Forward BRI
6 Mackinnon Sam Forward BRI
9 Hill Michael Guard BRI
24 Boucher Dillon Forward BRI
25 Ere Ebi Forward BRI import
45 Brown Justin Centre BRI
45 Rychart Dusty Forward BRI import
Bradshaw Craig Centre BRI

6 Cattalini Martin Forward CNS
8 Grabau Aaron Guard CNS
11 Tucker Rashad Guard CNS import
12 Cook Scott Guard CNS
13 Mee Darnell Guard CNS
15 Jawai Nathan Centre CNS
20 Boodnikoff Gary Forward CNS
21 Abney Larry Centre CNS import
31 Black Stephen Guard CNS
50 Smith Matthew Centre CNS
Vale Dwayne Guard CNS
0 Brebner Dean Forward CNS

1 Hawkins Juaquin Forward GCB import
2 Joyce Daniel Guard GCB
5 Crowe Jason Guard GCB import
7 Demos Tyson Guard GCB
10 McGregor Scott Forward GCB
11 Cameron Pero Forward GCB
12 Campbell Nic Forward GCB
30 Melmeth Ben Centre GCB
33 Harvey James Guard GCB
43 Frank Casey Forward GCB

0 Muursepp Martin Centre MEL import
4 Corletto Daryl Guard MEL
5 Greer Tommy Forward MEL
9 Stiff David Forward MEL
11 Thomas Dave Forward MEL import
13 Anstey Chris Centre MEL
14 O'Hea Matt Guard MEL
15 Sturt Adrien Centre MEL
20 Barlow David Forward MEL
23 Crosswell Nathan Guard MEL
33 Hoare Stephen Forward MEL
44 McDonald Darryl Guard MEL

0 Kersten Ryan Guard NZB
2 Ronaldson Tony Forward NZB
3 Forman Oscar Forward NZB
5 Charleton Brent Guard NZB
8 Winitana Paora Guard NZB
14 Vukona Mike Forward NZB
21 Jones Phill Guard NZB
32 Henare Paul Guard NZB
34 Behrendorff Tim Centre NZB
0 Turner Wayne Guard NZB import
0 Rickert Rick Centre NZB import
0 Penney Kirk Forward NZB

2 Phillips Rashad Guard PER import
4 Garlepp Tom Forward PER
5 Caporn Adam Guard PER
8 Crawford Peter Guard PER
9 Rogers Paul Centre PER
10 Dowdell Jeff Forward PER
12 Homik Mike Forward PER
22 Robbins Brad Guard PER
40 Loughton Alex Forward PER
42 Redhage Shawn Forward PER import
55 Hunt Brad Guard PER

33 Knight Ben Forward SIN
Grizzard Rod Forward SIN import
Helms Mike Guard SIN import
Janev Blagoj Forward SIN
Cameron Chris Centre SIN
Koon Koh Meng Guard SIN
Patman Matialakan Forward SIN
Wong Michael Guard SIN

1 Groves Cortez Guard SOD import
2 Hill Brad Guard SOD
3 Heal Shane Guard SOD
5 Seebohm Shannon Guard SOD
7 Ingles Joe Guard SOD
11 Martin Luke Guard SOD
12 Holmes Jacob Forward SOD
13 Shanahan Matthew Guard SOD
22 Burston Matthew Centre SOD
41 Hobba Brent Forward SOD
44 Horvath Nick Centre SOD import

4 Carter BJ Guard SYD
7 Hinder Russell Centre SYD
8 Borgia Blake Guard SYD
10 Smith Jason Guard SYD
11 Crosswhite Ian Centre SYD
12 Saville Glen Forward SYD
21 Kendall Luke Guard SYD
22 Worthington Mark Forward SYD
24 Tovey Cameron Forward SYD

1 Young Galen Guard TSV import
3 Sheridan Bradley Forward TSV
4 Robertson Kelvin Guard TSV
6 Williamson Drew Guard TSV
12 Egan Daniel Forward TSV
13 Vanderjagt Greg Centre TSV
24 Cedar Michael Guard TSV
31 Rillie John Guard TSV
32 Pepper Ben Centre TSV
75 Ellis Rosell Forward TSV import

1 Carter Rhys Guard WSR
2 Devries Troy Forward WSR import
5 Dann Graeme Forward WSR
6 Khazzouh Julian Centre WSR
8 Hinson Darnell Guard WSR import
11 Petrie Anthony Forward WSR
12 Rampton Tony Centre WSR
13 Rush Liam Forward WSR
14 Knight Matthew Forward WSR
55 Martin Damian Guard WSR

0 Tragardh Cameron Centre WNG
0 Jackson Daniel Forward WNG
2 Franklin Kavossy Guard WNG import
4 Tait Lindsay Guard WNG
8 Kench Jeremy Guard WNG
10 Davidson Larry Forward WNG
14 Philip John Guard WNG
15 Rigby Cameron Forward WNG
20 Castle Ben Guard WNG
21 Peters James Forward WNG import
32 Campbell Matthew Guard WNG

Players by position
Centres
11 Cooper David Centre ADL
23 Dodman Jordan Centre ADL
30 Dench Axel Centre ADL
45 Brown Justin Centre BRI
Bradshaw Craig Centre BRI
15 Jawai Nathan Centre CNS
21 Abney Larry Centre CNS import
50 Smith Matthew Centre CNS
30 Melmeth Ben Centre GCB
0 Muursepp Martin Centre MEL import
13 Anstey Chris Centre MEL
15 Sturt Adrien Centre MEL
0 Rickert Rick Centre NZB import
34 Behrendorff Tim Centre NZB
9 Rogers Paul Centre PER
Cameron Chris Centre SIN
17 Conn Simon Centre SOD
22 Burston Matthew Centre SOD
44 Horvath Nick Centre SOD import
7 Hinder Russell Centre SYD
11 Crosswhite Ian Centre SYD
13 Vanderjagt Greg Centre TSV
32 Pepper Ben Centre TSV
0 Tragardh Cameron Centre WNG
6 Khazzouh Julian Centre WSR
12 Rampton Tony Centre WSR

Forwards
20 Chappell Mike Forward ADL import
54 Ballinger Adam Forward ADL import
4 Williamson Brad Forward BRI
6 Mackinnon Sam Forward BRI
24 Boucher Dillon Forward BRI
25 Ere Ebi Forward BRI import
45 Rychart Dusty Forward BRI import
6 Cattalini Martin Forward CNS
20 Boodnikoff Gary Forward CNS
Brebner Dean Forward CNS
1 Hawkins Juaquin Forward GCB import
10 McGregor Scott Forward GCB
11 Cameron Pero Forward GCB
12 Campbell Nic Forward GCB
43 Frank Casey Forward GCB
5 Greer Tommy Forward MEL
9 Stiff David Forward MEL
11 Thomas Dave Forward MEL import
20 Barlow David Forward MEL
33 Hoare Stephen Forward MEL
2 Ronaldson Tony Forward NZB
3 Forman Oscar Forward NZB
14 Vukona Mike Forward NZB
Penney Kirk Forward NZB
4 Garlepp Tom Forward PER
10 Dowdell Jeff Forward PER
12 Homik Mike Forward PER
40 Loughton Alex Forward PER
42 Redhage Shawn Forward PER import
33 Knight Ben Forward SIN
Grizzard Rod Forward SIN import
Janev Blagoj Forward SIN
Patman Matialakan Forward SIN
12 Holmes Jacob Forward SOD
41 Hobba Brent Forward SOD
12 Saville Glen Forward SYD
22 Worthington Mark Forward SYD
24 Tovey Cameron Forward SYD
3 Sheridan Bradley Forward TSV
12 Egan Daniel Forward TSV
75 Ellis Rosell Forward TSV import
0 Jackson Daniel Forward WNG
10 Davidson Larry Forward WNG
15 Rigby Cameron Forward WNG
21 Peters James Forward WNG import
2 Devries Troy Forward WSR import
5 Dann Graeme Forward WSR
11 Petrie Anthony Forward WSR
13 Rush Liam Forward WSR
14 Knight Matthew Forward WSR

Guards
5 Maher Brett Guard ADL
6 Sutton Matthew Guard ADL
8 Ng Darren Guard ADL
14 Davidson Brad Guard ADL
21 Copeland Lanard Guard ADL
1 Gibson Adam Guard BRI
3 Bruton CJ Guard BRI
9 Hill Michael Guard BRI
8 Grabau Aaron Guard CNS
11 Tucker Rashad Guard CNS import
12 Cook Scott Guard CNS
13 Mee Darnell Guard CNS
31 Black Stephen Guard CNS
Vale Dwayne Guard CNS
2 Joyce Daniel Guard GCB
5 Crowe Jason Guard GCB import
7 Demos Tyson Guard GCB
33 Harvey James Guard GCB
4 Corletto Daryl Guard MEL
14 O'Hea Matt Guard MEL
23 Crosswell Nathan Guard MEL
44 McDonald Darryl Guard MEL
0 Kersten Ryan Guard NZB
0 Turner Wayne Guard NZB import
5 Charleton Brent Guard NZB
8 Winitana Paora Guard NZB
21 Jones Phill Guard NZB
32 Henare Paul Guard NZB
2 Phillips Rashad Guard PER import
5 Caporn Adam Guard PER
8 Crawford Peter Guard PER
22 Robbins Brad Guard PER
55 Hunt Brad Guard PER
Koon Koh Meng Guard SIN
Wong Michael Guard SIN
Helms Mike Guard SIN import
1 Groves Cortez Guard SOD import
2 Hill Brad Guard SOD
3 Heal Shane Guard SOD
5 Seebohm Shannon Guard SOD
7 Ingles Joe Guard SOD
11 Martin Luke Guard SOD
13 Shanahan Matthew Guard SOD
4 Carter BJ Guard SYD
8 Borgia Blake Guard SYD
10 Smith Jason Guard SYD
21 Kendall Luke Guard SYD
1 Young Galen Guard TSV import
4 Robertson Kelvin Guard TSV
6 Williamson Drew Guard TSV
24 Cedar Michael Guard TSV
31 Rillie John Guard TSV
2 Franklin Kavossy Guard WNG import
4 Tait Lindsay Guard WNG
8 Kench Jeremy Guard WNG
14 Philip John Guard WNG
20 Castle Ben Guard WNG
32 Campbell Matthew Guard WNG
1 Carter Rhys Guard WSR
8 Hinson Darnell Guard WSR import
55 Martin Damian Guard WSR

[moonshadow]

Here are the indicative player listings, firstly by team, and then by position.

Discussion is now open on positioning...feel free to contribute.

Players by team
3 Majstrovich Adrian Forward ADL
7 Nash Mark Forward

22 Baynes Callum Forward BRI

14 O'Hea Matt Guard MEL

13 Ryan Damien Guard PER

9 Susnjara Anthony Forward SYD


these guys are not on NBL rosters.

and Shaun Redhage is an import.

I'd like to see Hinder as a C.

Mathew Knight is definately a F.
Larry Davidson is a F or C. (id prefer C)

And because of their teams lineups - Id like to see Dave Thomas and Ebi Ere moved to G, and Rashard Tucker moved to F.

[yuma]

Yeah ebi will most likely be playing sg this year, same as dave thomas

[Skindog the Hawk]

Players by team
3 Majstrovich Adrian Forward ADL
7 Nash Mark Forward

Removed.

22 Baynes Callum Forward BRI

14 O'Hea Matt Guard MEL

13 Ryan Damien Guard PER

9 Susnjara Anthony Forward SYD


The four of them are all on nbl.coma's rosters - are they confirmed non-starters for each club?


and Shaun Redhage is an import.
Fixed

I'd like to see Hinder as a C.

I'd like to see him play C as well...but he's listed as an F/C...more thoughts here?

Mathew Knight is definately a F.
Larry Davidson is a F or C. (id prefer C)
Both adjusted.

And because of their teams lineups - Id like to see Dave Thomas and Ebi Ere moved to G, and Rashard Tucker moved to F.

Meh - it's a league thing here, not a team thing.

SD.

[yuma]

Perth already have 11 signed players I dont see how Ryan can still be on the roster.

[Skindog the Hawk]

Perth already have 11 signed players I dont see how Ryan can still be on the roster.

Who's the 11th? With Ryan, they have 11.

SD.

[yuma]

Thats the team being discussed in the Wildcats thread.

Philips - Caporn - Robbins
Crawford - Hunt
Redhage - Dowdell
Loughton - Garlepp
Rogers - Homik

[Julian]

0 Garlepp Tom Forward PER

Ryan has signed with an Italian second division club.

[Da Houndawg #55]

Last time I checked Troy DeVries was a guard...

[lukus13]

Cam Tragardh listed as a forward, should that be a centre?

[Da Houndawg #55]

Cam Tragardh listed as a forward, should that be a centre?
:P :lol:

[lukus13]

Cam Tragardh listed as a forward, should that be a centre?
:P :lol:

What?

[Skindog the Hawk]

0 Garlepp Tom Forward PER

Ryan has signed with an Italian second division club.

Fixed.

[Da Houndawg #55]

Cam Tragardh listed as a forward, should that be a centre?
:P :lol:

What?
Sorry, in-joke.

I went on for months about Tragardh at center in a previous year.

[lukus13]

Kirk penney seems to be missing from the list.

Guard or forward?

[Stumps]

Agree with Trigger as C, would make Ingles a F.

[Mookie]

Currently (according to my quick count), we have:

19 Centres
49 Forwards
57 Guards

We could do with more C's.

===========

For the Breakers, presumably Rickert will be playing C. We have noone listed as a C on NZ.

Is Grabau more of a SF than a G?

Will Abney be lining up at starting C for Cairns?

[yuma]

Agree with Trigger as C, would make Ingles a F. But ingles plays alot more at the 1 and 2 then he does at the 3

[Lethal Vertical]

We already had this DT discussion last year to no avail, but...

I think he should be rated a G if he is playing G, regardless of the fact that he's a more natural forward. This is based on the stats generated in this years comp- where he will be, I presume, playing guard again.

I'd have Ingles as a Forward.

[Hoop Addict]

IMO:

Rickert - C (he'll have to play most of his minutes there)
Ingles - F (IMO plays more as a 3 than anything else)
Thomas - G (Will play majority of his minutes there)
Ebi - G (Ditto, especially with no Black now)

I would even argue for Abney to be a C since I think he'll play the majority of his minutes there for Cairns.

[Stumps]

Agree with Trigger as C, would make Ingles a F. But ingles plays alot more at the 1 and 2 then he does at the 3
You're telling me Heal, Groves, Ingles isn't going to be the primary 1-2-3 for the Dragons?

[Stumps]

Rickert - C (he'll have to play most of his minutes there)
Yep, and we desperately need more centres -- there should be at least enough for each team to have two.

Ingles - F (IMO plays more as a 3 than anything else)
Yep, already agreed.

Thomas - G (Will play majority of his minutes there)
Ebi - G (Ditto, especially with no Black now)
I would usually go for these two at F (and I think I have in previous years), but I guess this season it makes sense to have them as Gs.

I would even argue for Abney to be a C since I think he'll play the majority of his minutes there for Cairns.
Yes, we need more centres, so I support this.

[Skindog the Hawk]

Last year saw...

Guard - Ebi Ere
Forward - Dave Thomas, Joe Ingles, Larry Abney
Centre - Tim Behrendorff

Are we happy to maintain those 5 at those positions?

I'll move Rickert to being a C if that's the majority position, however a lot of the news coming out of NZ was that he's a 4 rather than a 5... :?

Makes you wonder who they'll actually play at the 5.

SD.

[Mookie]

Abney: It seems pretty clear to me that he should be a C this year, unless Cat or Tucker is going to play in the middle? I don't think so.

Rickert: If he's not classified as a C, then Ronaldson certainly should be...

[moonshadow]

Yep - Abney should be listed as a centre, because he is naturally a F/C.

As for Ronaldson and Rickert - I dont really agree that either should be a C. But if numbers was an issue and we had to make one, then Id go with Ronaldson - he has filled in at C for the last couple of years.


Instead - I still think Hinder should be a C, because he is much more of a natural C than either of those 2 guys.

[Stumps]

I would make Abney, Rickert and Hinder all centres.

[Skindog the Hawk]

I would make Abney, Rickert and Hinder all centres.

Updated accordingly.

SD.

[Mookie]

The balance is starting to look a bit healthier.

22 C
47 F
56 G

[grindog]

Little thing but I thought Id mention it. If Newley does suit with Adelaide, he will be wearing number 4.

[lukus13]

From the Wildcats thread

"Todays paper says no Trahair, high chance of getting Redhage his citizenship in next few weeks and they are looking at getting a big import, with Ryan not signing up they have points available to do that."

This could present another Darnell Mee type situation.

Just wanted to let you know.

[Mookie]

It would be convenient if Redhage does get his citizenship before the FNBL draft...

[Skindog the Hawk]

Singapore players added:

Grizzard Rod Forward SIN import
Janev Blagoj Forward SIN
Cameron Chris Centre SIN
Koon Koh Meng Guard SIN
Patman Matialakan Forward SIN
Wong Michael Guard SIN

Cairns player added:
Vale Dwayne Guard CNS

[Skindog the Hawk]

It would be convenient if Redhage does get his citizenship before the FNBL draft...

We will be basing Redhage's status on whether he is an import or not at September 1.

Skindog.
FNBL Commissioner.

[yuma]

What about Mike Helms, its been mentioned in articles that he has already re-signed.

[Stanley]

Tragardh is definitely a C

[Skindog the Hawk]

Any need for updates ladies and gents? List closes on August 31.

SD.

[lukus13]

Penney needs to be added for the Breakers.

[Hoop Addict]

Penney needs to be added for the Breakers.

Yep - as a G or F?

[Stumps]

I'd go with F, because we need them more!

[Hoop Addict]

I'd go with F, because we need them more!

Agreed - And I think we'll see a Turner/Jones/Penney lineup a lot of the time (even if they don't start that way).

And Tragardh moved t C please.

[yuma]

The biggest Issue with all of this is that Melbourne still have an import to go, so do Perth, and Sydney have two plus Singapore have a few spots left. Most of these players will be in the first few rounds and if you start the draft and bring them in through the waiver wire you are not going to make it as fair as if the players had been in the draft from the begginning. I say start the draft after the final player position is locked in or 10 days before the season begins, whichever is the latest.

[Skindog the Hawk]

The biggest Issue with all of this is that Melbourne still have an import to go, so do Perth, and Sydney have two plus Singapore have a few spots left. Most of these players will be in the first few rounds and if you start the draft and bring them in through the waiver wire you are not going to make it as fair as if the players had been in the draft from the begginning. I say start the draft after the final player position is locked in or 10 days before the season begins, whichever is the latest.

Nope - the cut-off date is September 1...any players added after that date will be available on the waiver wire, with the waiver wire working in the order that these players would have been added to the active roster.

example: Mike Helms is announced as Singapore's import on September 5;
Rodger Smith makes a comeback and is announced on Brisbane's roster on September 6;
Dennis Rodman decides to make some money and is announced as Sydney's import on September 7;
Brad Newley rejects a Euro offer and then signs with Sydney (as Adelaide and him came to an "agreement") on September 8.

All the waiver wires will run for 48 hours from the end of the draft, with the resolution of each restricted free agent (RFA) to be run in order.

Obviously the first person in line would have the right to pick and choose which player to pick up (by bidding on one of the RFAs), however as the waiver wire process is a secret one (bids are not disclosed), how would you know who is going to bid?

I've not known us to have this problem in seasons past...teams will pick up and drop players over the first 6 weeks (they always do)...working it this way is probably the best way.

The other option is we leave it until the weekend before the NBL starts and we have an msn-based draft :lol: 8) not

[Mama B]

yep. im gonna suck at this game. i have no idea what anything you just said means.

[Stumps]

The biggest Issue with all of this is that Melbourne still have an import to go, so do Perth, and Sydney have two plus Singapore have a few spots left. Most of these players will be in the first few rounds and if you start the draft and bring them in through the waiver wire you are not going to make it as fair as if the players had been in the draft from the begginning. I say start the draft after the final player position is locked in or 10 days before the season begins, whichever is the latest.
In this game, waiver wire position is quite useful in the opening weeks, as there are new imports entering the league. This provides a useful balance between randomly receiving the top pick in the first round ("Yay! Sam Mackinnon!") and receiving one of the lower picks ("Yay! When the draft is over I get the pick of the late-coming imports!")

All is not lost for the people in the middle of the order, either ... based on the experience of previous seasons, there are so many midseason signings, sackings and replacements (far more impactful than in the NBA, where the best players in the world are already in the league and can't just suddenly turn up midseason), that pretty much everybody gets a turn at using their waiver wire position to pick up a contributor (or Pierre Wooten).

[lukus13]

All the waiver wires will run for 48 hours from the end of the draft, with the resolution of each restricted free agent (RFA) to be run in order.
not

I understood all of your post bar this bit. Sorry for the noob stupidity, just wanted to clarify.

I thought the waiver wire operated throughout the season, not just for 48 hours after the end of the draft.

I thought this was how mid season inclusions to teams could be picked by FNBL teams.

[Stumps]

I thought the waiver wire operated throughout the season, not just for 48 hours after the end of the draft.

I thought this was how mid season inclusions to teams could be picked by FNBL teams.
I think Skindog is saying that the players who enter the league during the course of the draft (which will take weeks) will go on waivers for 48 hours as soon as the draft ends. Any players who enter the league after that will, as you have noted, have their own 48-hour waiver period upon arrival.

[Skindog the Hawk]

I thought the waiver wire operated throughout the season, not just for 48 hours after the end of the draft.

I thought this was how mid season inclusions to teams could be picked by FNBL teams.
I think Skindog is saying that the players who enter the league during the course of the draft (which will take weeks) will go on waivers for 48 hours as soon as the draft ends. Any players who enter the league after that will, as you have noted, have their own 48-hour waiver period upon arrival.

Correct, with the first set of waiver wire picks (the players who come onto NBL rosters in the period from September 1 until the commencement of the season) to be run in the order that these players are announced as being on an NBL roster. (see above example)

SD.

[lukus13]

Cheers guys, appreciate that clarification!

I am really looking forward to my first season of FNBL, can't wait for it all to commence!

[Skindog the Hawk]

Added to the list:
Penney Kirk Forward NZB
Brebner Dean Forward CNS
Sturt Adrien Centre MEL
Borgia Blake Guard SYD
Jackson Daniel Forward WNG
Peters James Forward WNG import

Amended on the list:
Tragardh Cameron Centre WNG

Removed from the list:
Newley Brad Guard ADL
Baynes Callum Forward BRI
Susnjara Anthony Forward SYD

The list has been totally updated with all confirmed signings, as at 23/08/2007.

SD.

[moonshadow]

Added to the list:
Borgia Blake Guard SYD


when was Borgia signed?

[Julian]

Added to the list:
Borgia Blake Guard SYD

when was Borgia signed?
They don't exactly hold press conferences (or even write-up a crappy little nbl.com.au article) for developmental players going into their second season. Here's the current team list:

http://www.sydneykings.com.au/zone/team ... 3&TeamID=9 (http://www.sydneykings.com.au/zone/teammembers.asp?BL=kings&GroupID=13&TeamID=9)

[Julian]

The list has been totally updated with all confirmed signings, as at 23/08/2007.
One of the more prestigious pre-season competitions on the planet, [John] Fitzgerald will suit up for the Singapore Slingers for the first time in Brunei since signing his first professional contract with the NBL club three weeks ago.

[Mookie]

It would seem Helms is back with the Slingers:
http://www.nbl.com.au/default.aspx?s=ne ... y&aid=5375 (http://www.nbl.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&aid=5375)

And Martin Morethanthecap should be added for the Tigers as well.

With so many new players, both imports and locals, this will be a tough draft to prepare for.

[Skindog the Hawk]

Borgia simply appeared on the Kings listing, hence I popped him on.

Helms and Fitzgerald hadn't been officially announced by the Slingers (I'm not quite sure whether Fitzgerald has been yet anyways) as at yesterday, hence their non-appearance on the current list.

It definitely doesn't help that the Slingers' website has no player listing at all and that their listing on the NBL website includes half of last year's roster. :?

SD.

[lukus13]

Nathan Herbert has signed as a development player for the South Dragons.

[Mookie]

http://nbl.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&aid=5403
Helms keeps getting mentioned with the Slingers. The NBL are notoriously bad at announcing things -- I can't imagine we'll get any more official announcement than the game reports in the pre-season, followed by the game reports in game one of the regular season...

The NBL Transaction Tracker lists Martin Murrsepp as signed, as it does for Helms, as follows:

Returning: Ben Knight, Mike Helms*, Pathman Matialakin#, Koh Meng Koon#
Departing: Brad Davidson, Ben Melmeth, Larry Davidson, Jeremy Kench, Marquin Chandler*, Eban Hyams, Pero Vasiljevic
Undetermined: Aaron Trahair
Free agents signed: Rod Gizzard (USA), Blagoj Janev (New Hampshire Wildcats), Chris Cameron (Kotwica - Poland), Michael Wong# (Singapore)

[Cousin Of Topcat]

list Helms, please.

[yuma]

There was an article on the nbl website the other day about helms being signed, so its definately official.

[Hoop Addict]

There was an article on the nbl website the other day about helms being signed, so its definately official.

I think it's now established he's definitely signed.

Skinner, can you please update the draft list so everyone is clear on this before we start drafting tomorrow?

[Skindog the Hawk]

There was an article on the nbl website the other day about helms being signed, so its definately official.

I think it's now established he's definitely signed.

Skinner, can you please update the draft list so everyone is clear on this before we start drafting tomorrow?

Helms is added.

SD.

[Mookie]

Am I imagining things, or was Martin Murrsepp not confirmed as signed with the Tigers? Why was he not added to the list?

[Skindog the Hawk]

Am I imagining things, or was Martin Murrsepp not confirmed as signed with the Tigers? Why was he not added to the list?

Muursepp is added.

The player list is now final.

SD.

[Lethal Vertical]

Why is Martin Muursepp a Centre!?!?

Every single website player profile lists him as a power forward. Plus, he'll be starting alongside Anstey.

[Stumps]

My eyebrow also raised when I noticed that, but it's too late to change it now that the draft has commenced.

[pilonv1]

I figured it was because there aren't enough Centres. But then there's not too many forwards either.

[Skindog the Hawk]

Simon Conn (SOD, C) has been deleted from the available players list as he has been cut by the Dragons, effective immediately.

News item here (http://www.nbl.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&aid=5446).

Skindog.
FNBL Commissioner.